Catherine Fitts: Epstein, CIA Black Budget, the Control Grid, and the Banks’ Role in War
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What is the control grid and how does it function?
Catherine Austin Fitz, thank you for doing this.
Tucker, thank you for doing this.
The first time we did an interview over a year ago, different worlds completely. And I remember thinking, wow, I've rarely spoken to anyone who thinks in such big terms. I mean, that is a compliment. I wonder if this is all true. I think time has proven you right. We've had a couple of meals in the subsequent months.
How will biometrics be used to exert control?
And so I'm just, I just want to say, I think you're really wise and I'm grateful to have you.
So I want you to know it was only 10 months ago, but it seems like a long, long time.
Why are banks moving away from cash transactions?
Man. Time is flying. Yeah, I meet people in airports all the time who are like, I used to think I was a conspiracy theorist, but now I know I was, you know, but it's kind of a variety of that. But last time we had lunch a couple months ago, you were telling me about, and I wish we had this on tape, but we can recreate it here, about the control grid, a concept that you had explained when we last did an interview, and how it was, as you said at lunch, snapping into place constantly. Can you just, for people who haven't seen your previous talk, explain what the control grid is, what it looks like and what it means?
So the control grid is a process or an infrastructure that allows digital technology to be used to assert phenomenal surveillance and control of people. And at the very heart of it is what I call programmable money. So it's money that is no longer just a currency. It's money that comes with a set of rules that can be surveilled and forced.
What role do central banks play in modern warfare?
So imagine back in the pandemic, if your money, if I said, okay, you've got a lockdown and your money won't work if you leave your house, you can't buy gas in your car because your money is programmed with AI and software to enforce a whole set of centralized rules. And programmable money allows the bankers who've been running monetary policy to now control fiscal policy and essentially replace legislatures and executive branch by making and enforcing the rules through the money. Now, that requires a large infrastructure structure. of surveillance so you need digital ids and then you need the hardware locally and globally to to do the surveillance and implementation so for example if you look at the local hardware and now people are seeing it you know now that it's material they're beginning to see it snap into place so i don't know if you know flock cameras but there are many communities across the united states
that are entering into contracts paid by the taxpayers to put up cameras all around their neighborhood that track license plates and keep that data and share it with a variety of people. Or you have the FCC is trying to overrule local controls on cell towers so they can literally put... cell towers every 400 to 700 feet so that they can have the kind of invasive surveillance you need. Or you have satellites now that can literally beam in Wi-Fi so that whether you have Wi-Fi in your home or not, they can start to track you. And all those systems put you in what I call the panopticon. So we saw in the Middle East with the First war with Iran, we saw 11 leaders out of 12 sort of top leaders in science and government assassinated because they're literally tracking everyone.
And they can identify them and track them. And then you have invisible weaponry that can then take them out or, you know, can identify missile strikes.
So you're talking about the 12-day war against Iran in June of 2025. Correct. We were led to believe just as newspaper readers or news consumers that those 11 Iranian officials were targeted with human intelligence. you know, that Israel had spies inside of Iran, but you're saying that was done digitally.
That's probably, I would assume that that's probably true because you always want to get human confirmation of what the systems are telling you. It's always better if you have both. But we are now moving into building out the kind of surveillance systems that, That can literally track, identify, and integrate with not only our existing weaponry, but ultimately autonomous weaponry.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the control grid and how does it function?
0:04–0:27
2
How will biometrics be used to exert control?
0:27–0:37
3
Why are banks moving away from cash transactions?
0:37–1:37
4
What role do central banks play in modern warfare?
1:37–4:27
5
What crisis might justify the implementation of digital currency?
4:27–4:40
6
How does programmable money affect individual freedoms?
4:40–7:06
7
What are the implications of a digital control grid for society?
7:06–10:00
8
What actions can individuals take to resist the control grid?
10:00–1:52:26
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