Ex-Trucker: Gang Heists, Infiltration of the Workforce and the Attempt to Replace You With Machines

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Tucker Carlson 0:04
Gordon, thanks so much for doing this.
Gord Magill 0:06
Oh, hey, thanks for having me.
Tucker Carlson 0:07
The reason I wanted to do this is because I think it fits. I'm going to give you my one-minute overlay of why I think this is important. It's always important when people are hassled and destroyed for things they didn't do wrong. But I think the fate of truckers in the United States and Canada is part of a much larger trend.

How are American truckers being replaced by foreign workers?

Tucker Carlson 0:29
So 10 years ago, I think this is correct. I put it in a book I wrote that... a driving for a living was the number one most common job for high school educated white men in the united states which is to say that people displaced by de-industrialization The factories died. The country went from making things to finance and real estate. And the people left behind weren't helped. They were destroyed by the Sacklers and drugs and also by kind of relentless hounding and scolding by the ruling class. I don't quite understand what that was, but I just noticed it, have noticed it, still noticing it. So driving, trucking was not only like a huge part of the working class economy, like at the center of the working class economy in the West, but also sort of symbol of like culture and autonomy, like I'm behind the wheel, no one can control me.
Gord Magill 1:23
The last American cowboy, as it were.
Tucker Carlson 1:25
Exactly. And it was celebrated, by the way, in the 70s and early 80s.
Gord Magill 1:29
Oh, massive cultural output celebrating and venerating the American trucker.
Tucker Carlson 1:33
Exactly.

What is life like for a long-haul trucker?

Tucker Carlson 1:34
When, you know, Americans, ordinary Americans whose ancestors built this country were, you know, not considered criminals. So, by virtue of being alive. But anyway, I think this is part of a much larger shift in, and attack on the best people in the country. And last thing I'll say is like the other thing a lot of these guys do is go fight wars.
Gord Magill 2:00
Well, hey, my grandfather landed at Normandy, D-Day plus three, in a Sherman tank, in a Canadian uniform, fought legitimate, real Nazis, not the ones that are the figments of people's imagination. And then came back to Canada and eventually got into the trucking business. Of course. I'm a third-generation trucker, man. Okay, so there you go. I'm sorry. I just wanted to get my theories out of the way. My dad was in the reserves.

What are the most dangerous experiences faced by truckers?

Gord Magill 2:24
Like, we got both. We're on both bases, sir.
Tucker Carlson 2:27
So tell me, I'm not surprised at all. So, okay, you've written a book, End of the Road, Inside the War on Truckers. Most people are not aware there is a war on truckers, has been ongoing this war on truckers. Give us an overview. What does that mean, war on truckers?
Gord Magill 2:41
Well, you know, it's sort of an analogy, right? There's wars on workers. You know, as you mentioned, deindustrialization, shipping, manufacturing overseas. They couldn't get rid of truckers, right? Like, we're here.

How has the trucking industry changed under recent administrations?

Gord Magill 2:53
This is geography, right? You can't move things around America without being in America or Canada. And so I think what we've seen is that the results of a... They tried to, in 1980, open up the market, right, in order to bring the same forces to North America. So you can't ship the jobs away, so let's make it so that the jobs, you know, are more competitive in their speak. So Motor Carrier Act of 1980 comes in, and the idea is that the previous... regulatory framework for trucking, the old Motor Carrier Act, which had a regulated business, right? So like you had to publish your rates. It took a lot to actually get, you know, what you might call a taxi medallion. Like you had to have authority to operate a trucking business that was controlled by the government.
Gord Magill 3:42
They did have an argument that this was like it made things too expensive. It was sort of a cartel. Yeah. But the reforms went so far in the other direction that basically anybody with $300 and a pulse could sign up to become a trucking company. And the effects of that, which were brought by people who wanted free market reforms. Free market. Free markets. Yeah, yeah. Well, hey, man, who isn't? The problem is this, is that since then- We didn't get free markets. No, we did not. And since then, they have asked the government to help them with the consequences of the reforms they asked for.

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