Jay Dyer: Demons in Hollywood, CIA, Secret Societies, Lone Gunmen, Epstein & Attacks on Christianity

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Tucker Carlson 0:04
Jay Dyer, thank you very much for doing this. I have a lot of questions to ask you, but I want to begin with orthodoxy. You are one of the most visible and maybe effective evangelists for orthodoxy, Christian orthodoxy, certainly in your age cohort, maybe in the country. You're Orthodox. Why are you Orthodox? What is orthodoxy?

Why did Jay Dyer convert from Baptist to Orthodox Christianity?

Jay Dyer 0:29
I'm Orthodox because I went through a long journey trying to figure out what authentic Christianity is. And so I was raised Baptist. That took me eventually into Catholicism when I was about 20, 21, I think. I read... St. Augustine's City of God, I read a bunch of his other works, and I thought, well, Baptist isn't right because I'm finding in the Church Fathers all these teachings that are not Baptist. And so that kind of gradually took me in the realm of traditional Roman Catholicism, did that for a long time. And as you get into, I think, the more recent problems of Vatican II, post-Vatican II theology, that led me to the question of how do I reconcile this with what I know the first thousand years of Christianity teaches?
Jay Dyer 1:16
So long story short, it took me about eight or 10 years. I finally came to the Orthodox Church about 10 years ago.
Tucker Carlson 1:22
So that's the simplest, quickest reason is because I think it's- The first thousand years of Christianity, I think to most modern Christians, certainly American Christians, that's like a black hole. What does that even mean, the first thousand years of Christianity?
Jay Dyer 1:35
It's an area that we're not taught. I know that when I went to college, the only thing that we talked about from that whole period was like Augustine's Confessions and maybe one other book or two. Then we have something called the Dark Ages and nothing happens. Nothing about Byzantium.
Tucker Carlson 1:51
Didn't even exist. And then like these people called the Medici's make a ton of money in Italy and start funding beautiful art. And that's the beginning of civilization.
Jay Dyer 1:58
so i and i remember at college i was like pressing the department like why don't we study some medieval stuff some byzantine stuff and they were like why should we we don't care about that christian stuff so um yeah i think there's probably a little bit of an intentional desire to suppress that uh for i mean american education i think it's pretty much brainwashing so um so but yeah one sentence this might take between constantine and the fourth century and the renaissance you had christian civilization the most successful empire in history is the byzantine empire from constantine all the way up until you know the fall of byzantium to to the to the muslims so um
Tucker Carlson 2:43
Why do you say it's the most successful empire?
Jay Dyer 2:45
It's a common sort of academic assessment just in terms of they flourished on a gold standard for a really long time. They started clipping the gold, money clipping like the Roman Empire in the West had done before them and other empires. So they fell prey to usury as well. Yeah. So they fell to a lot of the same... issues that empires tend to fall to human weakness and weakness recognizable stuff degeneracy all of that um also rabid nationalism had a tendency to break down empires as well um i like spangler and i think if you read oswald spangler he talks about how there's kind of a life cycle but i think the unique aspect of the business empire was that it was explicitly christian based on orthodox christianity um and so in many metrics of what it is to be successful or flourishing it flourished um but it did fall i think again i'm not trying to measure christianity just on worldly success but i do think it does play out in that way at times right if you're if you're really
Jay Dyer 3:47
based around christ if you're if your theology or civilization is logo centric then it's going to play out that way you're just going to prosper because you're aligned with what's true you're aligned with that transcendent source so um anyway for me that journey ended up being eventually orthodox christianity um so but just really quick back to the byzantine empire did you know it existed before
Tucker Carlson 4:11
How many people are aware that there was a Byzantine Empire and know anything about its outlines?

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