Jimmy Dore: Charlie Kirk’s Murder, Thomas Massie & Finding God Through the Propaganda Hellscape

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Tucker Carlson 0:04
Jimmy Dore, thank you for doing this. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. So it seemed to me so much is happening. It's hard to get perspective on any of it, but it does feel like Thomas Massey's loss in the primary in Kentucky two weeks ago was like a kind of pivot point in American politics. What was your response to it?
Jimmy Dore 0:24
Well, my response to it was how dare we preach democracy around the world and tell people that the people in China are oppressed when we obviously don't have democracy here, right? This is a complete, we just gave up. And so now it's the oligarchs, as I was telling you before, you know it's just proof that we don't live in a democracy you know they did that princeton study in 2015 about how it doesn't the 90 percent of people their wishes never are expressed in legislation and it's only the top 10 percent of the wealthy people and there's a direct correlation if 50 percent of the wealthy people want something 50 percent of the time it happens you know

How does Thomas Massie's primary loss reflect on American democracy?

Jimmy Dore 1:05
And so, but the bottom doesn't matter. Your vote literally doesn't matter. And we're living in that. And so, you know, I was telling you before in China, the government sits above capital. Yes. And so the economy works for the people. But in the United States, capital is above the government. And so the economy doesn't work for the people. It works for a handful of international globalist billionaires, which is why we have homelessness everywhere. We have the biggest prison population in the world. And, you know, we still go bankrupt just to get educated. You get bankrupt when you get sick. And like I say is that we're like, and we live in a surveillance state. And so we're like China, except we have more street crime and slower trains.
Jimmy Dore 1:49
Right.
Tucker Carlson 1:50
And we get lectured constantly in the most self-righteous way by the worst people. It's a hard jump for your average right winger, me, for example, to accept the fact that corporations are even more malicious than government. Way more. You know, I think that's, I'm coming around to that just because the evidence is overwhelming, but I do think there's like a training that takes place where you just have someone point to Soviet Poland and you're like, that's the option to what we have. And you're like, I don't want that. I don't like potatoes. You know what I mean? Bad architecture, grim weather. But I kind of believe that.
Jimmy Dore 2:32
You believe that that's the option? That that was the option.
Tucker Carlson 2:36
So either you have like Google runs everything and, you know, they do it in Technicolor and it's like free and it's great, or the state runs everything and it's Soviet Poland. And so like, I do think the average right winger, or again, I'll speak for myself, it's like hard to accept that you want to live in a system where billionaires don't control everything. Like, that's not good.
Jimmy Dore 3:02
That's not good. Look around. You're right. This is the system we're living in. And, you know, corporations, there's no long-term planning, right? At least in China, they have long-term planning, right? Which is why they get to have flying cars and great infrastructure. and beautiful bridges that make their own waterfalls and own rainbows and stuff like that. It's just amazing. Uh, and in here, because they don't in corporations only care about quarterly profits. So they don't care if the whole company crashes, as long as they can show a profit in the quarter.
Tucker Carlson 3:33
I think that's right.
Jimmy Dore 3:34
And that's the problem. There's no long-term planning in America. And that's why, and you know, I also have a firm belief that, uh, Like in California, they spent $24 billion to try to fix homelessness and none of it. It just got worse. And, you know, I think you've talked about this, that it seems planned because it probably is that they want us to live in this kind of hellscape. So we beg for authoritarian solutions to these problems. That's right. That's what they're doing. Right. So, you know, it all started with 9-11. They had the Patriot Act already written before 9-11. Right. So they and as Edward Snowden revealed that, you know, they're collecting every text, every phone call, every email you make anyway.

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