John Rich on Diddy, Demons, the Antichrist, How to Hear God, and His War on Child Predators
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What moment changed John Rich's perspective on success and significance?
So, John, you seem to be evolving as a man, and this is my outside observation, but as a man and an artist, you grew up, and you've said in our last interview, you wanted to be a country music star, you wanted to write a lot of songs, you wanted to chart, sell a lot of records, did all that. But you seem to be, I don't know, on some kind of new mission. Am I imagining that? And if I'm not, what is it?
No, you're not imagining it. A few years ago, I started to contemplate the difference between success and significance.
How does John Rich view the role of music in confronting societal issues?
And they are different. Sometimes they intersect where something significant or something successful, they interact. But I spent three decades of my adult life in self-service. competing in the music industry to be successful.
What dark realities exist in the music industry according to John Rich?
And so to me, success in the music industry, I had really high bars. I had set like, I want to be songwriter of the year, for instance, in Nashville. That's something I, that's like the coveted award because there's thousands of songwriters in Nashville. And I was songwriter of the year for three years in a row. Wanted to sell millions of records. Well, all told, you know, we sold close to 15 million records. wanted to write hit songs for other people too. And I've had, I don't know how many, I don't even know the number of how many top 10 songs I've written. It's a lot.
So- Can I just ask, how were those victories? Were they as great as you thought they'd be?
At the time, yeah. Because, you know, that's my American dream. That's what I wanted to do. You know, I didn't go to college. I had a four-year ride to a school called Belmont University in Nashville on a vocal scholarship. And my plan was to go there and go to college. And I'm in Nashville and I'll try to get a record deal, you know, and go to college. If I don't get a record deal, well, I went to college and I got a degree. Maybe I go do something. I don't know. But instead of going to college, I went out on the road with some guys I literally barely knew from Texas who were older than me. I was 18 going on 19. And instead of going to college, I went out and played about 200 nights a year in a van pulling a trailer all over the US playing holiday in lounges and county rodeos and off-brand casinos and basically anybody that would hire us.
because I wanted to be on the radio, I wanted to play the Grand Ole Opry, and I wanted to write number one songs. And I couldn't understand how college was going to make that happen. Fair. It can't.
Yeah.
I mean, it just can't.
What actions is John Rich taking to combat child predators?
So I said, I'm going to just go do it. And so that band became a band called Lone Star, which we got a record deal a couple of years after we started, sold four or five million records with them, wrote my first number ones with them. So in those moments... where you gambled to that level and then you win and then everybody loves it. It is just a constant high five. I mean, it's just a constant celebration because that is so hard to do.
Yes.
It's like an Olympian winning a gold medal. That's what it's like to write a number one song or to step out on a stage and there's 30,000 people that know the words to your music and you've never met any of them. And it's that way all over the U.S. You can imagine that feeling, especially in your 20s.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, there's no better physical feeling I don't think you can have than just, it's just massive adrenaline. And so...
Is John Rich concerned about his career for preaching the gospel?
throughout the course of the next years, here comes Big and Rich, which is, you know, my singing partner, Big Kenny. And we sold millions of records and we have 20, 30,000 people a night. And here's a whole nother rack of hit songs coming. And now I'm finding people, you know, bartenders who I hear sing one night. And I talked to this girl and I go, you're one of the best singers I've ever heard. We got to get you in the studio. We got to write some songs. She goes, all right. And so we do. She gets a record deal. Her name's Gretchen Wilson. And Gretchen Wilson sold about 13 million records. Damn. You following this trend? Yeah, yeah. So I mean, just home run after home run, grand slam, grand slam.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What moment changed John Rich's perspective on success and significance?
0:00–0:35
2
How does John Rich view the role of music in confronting societal issues?
0:35–0:55
3
What dark realities exist in the music industry according to John Rich?
0:55–2:41
4
What actions is John Rich taking to combat child predators?
2:41–3:34
5
Is John Rich concerned about his career for preaching the gospel?
3:34–6:08
6
How does John Rich believe Christians should respond to evil?
6:08–7:10
7
What does John Rich say about the significance of prayer in hearing God?
7:10–23:29
8
How does John Rich's new song address the issue of child exploitation?
23:29–1:35:42
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