The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker and MTG on the 5 Pillars of MAGA and the Snakes in Washington Trying to Tear Them Down
23 Oct 2025
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So there's this scene in Animal Farm. It's the last scene in the novel, the famous George Orwell novel, the one less referred to than 1984, but in some ways a lot better. And there's this scene where the pigs and the men are playing cards at a table.
Now, for the course of the novel, the pigs are leading the animals, the animals of the farm, in rebellion against the men, whose cruel and capricious and greedy leadership has kind of wrecked the farm, and they've risen up collectively to take back what's theirs, the means of production, and they're gonna distribute the fruits equally, and everything's gonna be fair and equitable, and things are gonna be great.
And the pigs naturally rise to the top of the hierarchy because they're the smartest and following them are the kind of stalwart horses and the sweet-tempered trusting cattle, et cetera, all the way on down the chain. And so it's left to the pigs to negotiate with the men, the former farm owners. And of course they hate the men, right? They're the declared enemy of the men.
And in the final scene, the other animals are gathered outside the house, noses pressed against the glass, and the pigs are sitting basically partying with the men. And for a moment, they become indistinguishable. You can't tell the pig from the man. They've melded into one.
In other words, the movement the pigs led has been completely corrupted and become the mirror image of what it purported to be. And the reason this, of course, was describing the Soviet leadership, which overthrew an aristocracy only to install its own even more tyrannical version, genocidal version,
But it really describes almost all human organizations, which, unless you're careful and thoughtful and get into the consistent habit of restating your principles out loud, most human organizations wind up resembling, just organically over time, whatever force they were created to fight against. They become inversions of themselves, mirror images of what they were intended to be.
This is just the way things are. It certainly happened to the Democratic Party, by the way, in our lifetimes. I mean, 40 years ago, the Democratic Party was the party of what? Peace and human rights and against big business. And since the Clinton years, of course, it has been the opposite of those things. The Democratic Party has been the defender of oligarchy and the main driver of war.
And of course, the. sort of great proponents of censorship and the opponent of human rights. My body, my choice, they say, is they force you to take the COVID vax. And this has been noted quite a bit. There's a pretty good book written about it several years ago, I would say, called Ship of Fools. Sorry.
But this can happen not just to the Democratic Party and the Communist Party, the Bolshevik Party of 1917. It could happen to really any party, including the Republican Party, including the party of MAGA. Hasn't happened necessarily, but there are people who would like it to happen.
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