Tucker Carlson Interviews Nick Fuentes
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Nick Fuentes, thank you for doing this. Yeah, thank you for having me. I wanted to meet you. I've heard about you. I've heard about you. Thank you. I want to understand what you believe, and I want to give you a chance in a minute to just lay it out, not what you're pivoting against. Which are a lot of the same thing. You know, I agree with you on some of the things you're pivoting against for sure, but what do you affirmatively believe? So I just want to stand back and let you explain it. But first I want to understand how you got to where you are, how you became Nick Fuentes. So here's, I'm just, this is my understanding of your life arc and tell me if I'm wrong. You show up at Boston University. You grew up in a suburb of Chicago, kind of working class, western suburb.
And you show up at Boston University in the fall of 2016 at the height of the battle between Trump and Hillary. It's like this kind of pivot point in history. And you show up with a MAGA hat and you have a Trump hat and you have like basically off-the-shelf Republican views. Yes. And so describe the views that you had then and then describe what happened.
Yeah, so when I was in high school, I was very political. I was reading a lot of the libertarian stuff, Austrian school, Chicago school, economic type literature, because that's what was popular at the time. If you went online in the mid, early 2010s, that's all the conservative content there really was. That was the most extremely online type stuff. Libertarian economics. Well, yeah. Yeah, basically, kind of the remnant of the Ron Paul revolution.
Yes.
The Young Americans for Liberty, PragerU, which kind of skews a little more, I guess, conservative, but very basic, small government, individualism, libertarian type stuff.
So you watch PragerU videos?
Oh, yeah. I was in the PragerForce. What's that? It's a Facebook group for college kids, and they promote the PragerU videos. Wow. Wow. That's for the college students and high school students.
So you really were a product of the moment. Absolutely. And how'd you feel about Trump?
Well, initially I didn't like Trump. When the primary started in 2015, I considered him to be a statist.
Yeah.
Which sounds so ridiculous now. No, a lot of people thought that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I was a libertarian. So I saw him as a big government, 1990s liberal. When he was asked about healthcare, he said, well, we'll take care of everybody. And I said, I'm a Rand Paul guy, Ted Cruz guy. Those were kind of my people back in 2015. You like Ted Cruz. I was a cruise missile. Does Cruz know that? I don't think so, no. I was actually on his campaign. You were on the Ted Cruz campaign? I don't know if I was on the campaign, but I door knocked in a little village in Chicago in McKinley Park for Ted Cruz. No way. In the Illinois primary. Did he write you a thank you note? No, I didn't get a thank you. He lost, so I guess.
Yeah, he did in a very humiliating way. So, wow, that's amazing. So, what happened?
So... I, like everybody else in 2016, went through this ideological awakening. And first I shifted to Trump. And the first realization that I had is it started in 2016, actually, because the primaries, you know, started in 15, around April or May, I think, were the first announcements. Yeah, yeah. And I had very negative feelings about Trump. And like I said, pro Rand Paul, pro Cruz. But when the actual Iowa caucus happened and the primaries began, I saw that Trump was dominating. And every night in the Super Tuesday, when they had all the big contests, one after the other, I remember the media was furious that he was winning one after the other. And I remember thinking to myself, like structurally, if I'm a libertarian or a conservative and we want to change the country, we have to win elections.
If you want to win elections, you have to bypass the media. I sort of had this realization that the media was really standing in the way. They were the problem. And I had this realization that all the conservatives and Republicans up to that point were afraid to take on the media.
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