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Tucker on What the Violent ICE Protests Are Really About and What It Means for White America

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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There is widespread violence, mob violence. There is political turmoil, chaos. Really, we're going to be going live there in a moment. Nick Shorter, who's been covering all this and shot some amazing video. We'll speak to one of the pastors of the church that was invaded by lunatics, by anti-ICE activists. It really is the mobilizing force on the left, and it's the focus of much of the right.

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And it's about a lot of different things. On the surface, it's about, of course, who has authority over the borders. Does federal authority mean anything? It's about law enforcement. To what extent can you pursue criminals in your own country? It's, of course, about immigration. ICE standing for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, of course.

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But big picture, it's about something much bigger, and that's why it's become such a passionate divide. The battle over ICE is really a battle over demographic change in the United States. Who gets to live here, which is always and everywhere the fundamental question in any country. Who lives there? Who are these people? What are they like?

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And in our country, that question has basically not been addressed out loud for the past 60 years, even as the population of the United States has changed dramatically. And that's one of the reasons.

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the battle over ICE and its jurisdiction and what to do with all the people living in the United States illegally has become so passionate and so fraught because no one is saying out loud what exactly this is about. And so as a first step to making things better, It would help to see things clearly.

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So let's talk about what exactly is going on in the United States and why it's led to the battles in, say, Minneapolis.

Chapter 2: What are the violent protests against ICE really about?

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What's happening in the United States is a wholesale change of who lives here. Total demographic change. Now, some have called this replacement. And the question is, is it really replacement? So we thought we would look it up. If you were someone following along at home trying to figure out, you know, what is everyone so mad about? What is this great replacement theory?

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You might go, as almost everybody does, first to Google and just type in great replacement theory, and AI would come up with the following result. This is hot off Google AI. Here's what it says if you look up great replacement theory on Google. We're quoting.

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The Great Replacement Theory is a debunked, meaning untrue, far right, meaning Nazi, white nationalist, meaning racist, conspiracy claiming that white populations, particularly in Europe and the U.S., are being deliberately replaced by non-white immigrants and minorities, often orchestrated by replacist elites, leading to demographic shifts and cultural erosion, fueling extremist violence and anti-immigrant sentiment.

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That's one sentence, by the way, a run-on sentence, but it is AI. And it's quite a sentence. And it tells you point blank, this is not true. Anyone who believes in it is deranged and is... Stoking violence simply by believing in it. And it goes on to explain how this works.

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The theory, quote, posits that mass migration, declining white birth rates and political agendas by elites are intentionally replacing white populations. It has inspired numerous acts of mass murder, violence, with perpetrators often citing this theory.

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Research shows that endorsers of the great replacement theory often hold antisocial traits, authoritarian views, and negative attitudes toward minorities and immigrants.

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In other words, once again, believing that the population of this or any other country is being manipulated by people in power and the people who were born here are being replaced by people who weren't, believing that is not only wrong, it's misinformation, it's been debunked, It's also dangerous. You can kill people by believing that. Well, how does that work exactly?

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It doesn't sound like a cool, objective analysis of the theory of replacement. It sounds instead like, well, a political screed, but maybe even more than that, it sounds like an article of religious faith. You're not allowed to believe this. Only bad people believe it. It's apostasy. It could lead to death believing that. And that seemed a little emotional for us.

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So we decided instead to consult the science because obviously we believe the science. And the science, as always, begins with numbers, things that are quantifiable, that are measurable. And one of the ways we know the truth about who lives here is through the census taken every 10 years. It's in the Constitution.

Chapter 3: How does the battle over ICE reflect demographic changes in the U.S.?

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Chicago, less than 30%. And New York City, again, the biggest city in the country, is now around 30% white, down from 90% in 1950. So you think to yourself, well, maybe these cities have just shrunk, and a lot of them have. Baltimore, Detroit, Philadelphia, Chicago, all much smaller than they were.

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What's interesting is that New York is bigger than it was, but a million people more live in New York than they did in 1950, and yet the proportion of whites has declined, well, from 90% to 30, but so is the absolute number. New York has lost about 4 million white people, even as it gained a million people in population. What is that?

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Now, in some of these cities, there are economic reasons for this, right? A lot of African-Americans moved up from the South to work at the auto plants in Detroit, to work at the harbor, at the shipyards, a steel plant in Baltimore, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But not all of it. And in New York City, Almost all the demographic change is the result of immigration.

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And that began in 1965, which is definitely within living memory of a lot of people watching this right now. So that's another and very long way of saying the Great Replacement is not only real, it's the realest thing there is, and it's provably true.

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So why would they go out of their way to tell you it's a debunked, far-right, racist conspiracy theory believed in only by antisocial lunatics who commit mass murder? Well, probably because it's true. And in telling you that, whoever wrote that, you have to ask yourself who would write that and why. And it's not just, of course, an AI in Google or Wikipedia. It's everywhere.

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There's almost nobody who admits that that's true, even though it's provably true. It's indisputably true. In fact, there's a list on Wikipedia of all the people who believe in it, the thought criminals who believe this could possibly be true. Apparently, people who don't have access to census numbers don't believe it's true.

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But, you know, the 19 figures in American public life who do have access to the census numbers somehow believe this is true. But they're telling you it's not. But what they're leaving out, of course, is that demographic change is a constant through history. And it is almost always mass demographic change. Turnover replacement is almost always the result of human choice.

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Populations change because leaders decide they should change. Population, demographics, the question of who lives within the borders of a country is not only a concern of leaders, of governments, it is the main concern. It's the main thing they think about. So the rest of us imagine that the government concerns itself with collecting taxes and schools, national defense.

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And those are all concerns, but we are thinking way too small. The people who run countries who map out the future of civilizations think in much larger terms than the rest of us. This is not a guess, by the way. This is true. They think in terms of who lives here, what are they like, how many of them are there. And there are plenty of levers that they can move to change those numbers.

Chapter 4: What is the Great Replacement Theory and its implications?

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Stop by and pick up a couple of bags before somebody else does. So why would governments do this? Well, that's kind of the more complex question. They do it. They've always done it. They would do it for a couple of reasons. One, to meet a short-term economic goal or even a long-term economic goal. Short-term might be who's going to pick the grapes in California. Oh, better get some Mexicans.

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Understandable. Most people are familiar with that. Others might be longer-term adjustments to changes that no one can really control, like AI. Oh, wait a second. We're not going to need as many people here because machines are going to do a lot of the work. How are we going to support these people? That might be another reason.

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And of course, there might be darker motives or more basic motives, like the innate human desire to conquer other people, to replace your group with my group. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's the entire story of history. Mass movements of people by force has been a constant since the Babylonian captivity and probably before, unrecorded. That is the story of history.

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And it's all around us, but we don't even notice. The history of Ireland is that story. Ireland, which is an island near England, was after Henry VIII, Catholic. England was Protestant. The English took over Ireland. It was their colony.

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And in order to make it more compliant and to control the people there and to impose their culture on a foreign peoples, they moved many thousands of foreigners into Ireland. There were the Anglo-Irish or Brits who moved to Ireland. That was the ruling class of the country. There were these Scots-Irish who were moved from Scotland into Ireland.

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And in so doing, a Protestant region of the country was created called Ulster. It's still there. It's still at least half Protestant. And at one point, the Brits moved the Huguenots in the 17th century from France. They were a mostly forgotten group now.

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But they were expelled from France during the series of Catholic-Protestant religious conflicts that swept through Europe after Martin Luther died. And the Brits said, well, I've got an idea. Why don't you move to Ireland? And they moved them to Ireland, mostly to Dublin. Why?

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To change the demographic balance of Ireland to make it easier to subdue and to rub the noses of the people in their culture, to replace the culture, the customs, the religion of the indigenous population, because they could. That's why. That's how people have done it throughout history.

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And by the way, then they went farther in Ireland, not to dwell in Ireland, but it's very interesting, actually. Not only did they move all kinds of foreigners into Ireland to change the demographic mix to effect a great replacement, they began to change the national monuments. Oh, that's weird. Have you seen that before? St.

Chapter 5: How did the demographics of major U.S. cities change since 1950?

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At that exact moment, why would you move in tens of millions of low-skilled laborers with eighth-grade educations? What are they going to do? No one even addressed the question because it had nothing to do with why they were brought in. It wasn't to help the United States. And of course, mass migration has not helped the United States.

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One very obvious point that lingers in the air, you don't even want to address it because it's so depressing, is how are those six cities we mentioned at the outset doing today in 2026? The six biggest cities in the country in 1950, again, it was New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore. I mean, there are nice places in some of those cities.

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Some of them are just slums, actually. And there are complicated reasons why manufacturing died. Some of those are big manufacturing hubs, of course. Immigration is not the only reason. Nothing is ever the only reason. But all of those cities were completely changed by immigration, and they all got way worse. Much worse. Like, much, much worse. Philadelphia, really? Baltimore? Detroit?

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So it didn't help. And in some places, like Los Angeles, it just destroyed the city completely and destroyed the state. Completely destroyed the state. You want to know what's wrong with California? Too much immigration. It was an amazing state in 1980. I remember it well. You wouldn't want to live there now. And because the governor is like a white liberal, you sort of forget...

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that the people who live in California look nothing like the people who lived there in 1980 at all, when it was the least corrupt and most functional state with the best schools and the lowest poverty rate. It now has more poverty than any state. It's got more immigrants than any state. There's just a one-to-one.

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And it's not an attack on the immigrants at all, many of whom are hardworking and nice, some of whom are not hardworking or nice, but a lot of them are. Latin immigrants tend to be pretty great when you know them. enthusiastic participants in the economy. But taken as a whole, immigration totally destroyed California. Just flat out. No other factor. Meaningful factor.

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That's the single biggest factor in the destruction of California. And you're ordered to pretend that didn't happen. Oh, but it did happen. And one of the facts was, as noted, it gave Democrats complete control over the state. It's a one-party state. Period.

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And you often run into Republicans from Santa Barbara or Orange County or up near Mount Shasta from Reading, you know, and they're as conservative as anybody who's ever ever met in your life. There's some real right wingers in California, but they have no say in anything because they control nothing because of immigration. It's literally that simple. So it works.

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And that model will be repeated unless someone puts the brakes on immediately across the country. So there are 14 states, plus D.C., as of tonight, that have no voter ID laws. And in some places, you're not allowed to ask for voter ID, just flat out. But in 14 states, you need no identification in order to vote. Why is that? Well, so illegals can vote. Literally, that's simple.

Chapter 6: What role does immigration play in the current societal unrest?

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If her grandson had said, Grandma, I wish I wasn't gay, she would have smacked him in the face with a ruler. You were born gay! Enjoy it! But when he says, I wish I wasn't white, she says, you're right. It's good to want to be Antonio and not be yourself, not be what God made you. Her own grandson. If she'd been black and gotten up and said, you know, my grandson said to me...

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my granddaughter had a white Barbie doll and said, grandma, I wish I had blonde hair and blue eyes. All of us would say, well, that's awful. God made you like this. It's sad to want to be something that you're not. You should be comfortable with the way you were made. Isn't that a kind of foundational modern American belief? Except when you're white, it's beautiful when you hate yourself.

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That's what she's saying. That's what she said on the house floor. She became the Speaker of the House twice. So she speaks not simply for herself, but for a lot of people, including a lot of whites like her. And by the way, that's not compassion, that's hatred. That's saying to a six-year-old, no, you were born the wrong way. You are fundamentally flawed. There's nothing you can do about it.

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You're not as good as Antonio. Okay. There's hatred. That is hatred. And it expresses itself. By the way, Nancy Pelosi is from Baltimore, and she grew up there when it was 85% white. How is it now? She doesn't go back very often, apparently. Things around the world are moving so fast right now, it's impossible to keep up with all of the changes.

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But in New York City, which went from 90 to 30 from 1950 to present, probably less than 30 for real. The new mayor, everyone's focused on his foreign policy views. How does he feel about Israel? Who cares? How does he feel about white Americans? Well, we know because he says, well, I'm going to tax him more because they're white.

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