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You only promote people to the next level when they actually consistently already demonstrated that they can operate successfully at that level for a long period of time. And if they haven't done that, don't promote them because actually promoting them when it's premature, it's worse for them. Because at that next level, they will be calibrated compared to the group of people, the whole cohort of people who are already operating really well on the next level. And if you promote them prematurely, it's actually going to be really bad.
You are listening to 20 Product with me, Harry Stebbings. Now, 20 Product is the monthly show where we sit down with the best product leaders to unpack their tips, tactics, and strategies to scaling incredible product teams. Today, we sit down with Maria Angelou, one of the product OGs, having spent close to a decade at Meta, working on some of the largest products, such as Facebook groups, which has 2 billion users, events... profile and search. Before that, Maria led the Facebook app monetization team, driving billions of dollars in revenue. And today, Maria is the chief product and technology officer at the European unicorn Personio. But before we dive in, this episode is brought to you by Pendo, the only all-in-one product experience platform for any type of application. Pendo helps you get your users to do what you want them to do. With Pendo, you get everything from analytics, in-app
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Visit glean.com slash 20 to request a demo today. You have now arrived at your... Maria, I am so excited for this. I'm also so excited. This is your first time on a podcast. It is. So thank you so much for joining me today.
Thank you for having me, Harry. I'm really excited to be here.
Now, I heard there was a sliding doors moment when it comes to your entrance into Facebook. So tell me, how did this sliding door story come to be on joining Facebook?
Yes, it was indeed a sliding doors type of moment. I'm going to take you to 2013. I was invited to one of those alumni events. This is the Boston Consulting Group. I worked at the firm for many, many years ago. I typically don't go to these, but that time was different because one of my friends made partner and it was a big deal to her. And so I wanted to go and congratulate her and give her a hug. And so I said, I'm going to go. And, you know, I remember that day, I almost didn't go. You know, I had a lot of work that day. And my husband literally, I remember, was pushing me out of the door because I already committed. And he said, you should go. Okay, I went.
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