20VC: Cohere's Chief AI Officer on Why Scaling Laws Will Continue | Whether You Can Buy Success in AI with Talent Acquisitions | The Future of Synthetic Data & What It Means for Models | Why AI Coding is Akin to Image Generation in 2015 with Joelle Pineau

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Previously titled “20VC: Cohere's Chief Scientist on Why Scaling Laws Will Continue | Whether You Can Buy Success in AI with Talent Acquisitions | The Future of Synthetic Data & What It Means for Models | Why AI Coding is Akin to Image Generation in 2015 with Joelle Pineau” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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Joelle Pineau is the Chief Scientist at Cohere, where she leads research on advancing large language models and practical AI systems. Before joining Cohere, she was VP of AI Research at Meta, where she founded and led Meta AI's Montreal lab. A professor at McGill University, Joelle is renowned for her pioneering work in reinforcement learning, robotics, and responsible AI development. AGENDA: 00:00 Introduction to AI Scaling Laws 03:00 How Meta Shaped How I Think About AI Research 04:36 Challenges in Reinforcement Learning 10:00 Is It Possible to be Capital Efficient in AI 15:52 AI in Enterprise: Efficiency and Adoption 22:15 Security Concerns with AI Agents 28:34 Can Zuck Win By Buying the Galacticos of AI 32:15 The Rising Cost of Data 35:28 Synthetic Data and Model Degradation 37:22 Why AI Coding is Akin to Image Generation in 2015 48:46 If Joelle Was a VC Where Would She Invest? 52:17 Quickfire: Lessons from Zuck, Biggest Mindset Shift

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