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20VC: The Future of Foundation Models | The Future of AI Consumer Apps and Why OpenAI Did a Disservice to Them | The Future of Music: Spotify vs YouTube & Spotify vs TikTok: What Happens with Mikey Shulman @ Suno
10 Jan 2025
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OpenAI, they did every AI company a huge disservice because everybody thinks that just, like, empty text box is now the right interface, and it is for ChatGPT and it is incorrect for basically everything else. At some point, I don't know if it's version 4 or version 5, there will be a last model release that is released as a model. Everything else is just product releases.
This is 20VC with me, Harry Stabbings, and today we feature Suno, a company where I had the most visceral wow moment with their product since the iPhone. Suno is the future of music. They've raised over $125 million for the company from the likes of Lightspeed, Founder Collective, Nat Friedman, and Daniel Gross.
And today, we're joined by Suno's co-founder and CEO, Mikey Schulman, to discuss the future of models and the future of music. But before we dive in today, here are two fun facts about our newest brand sponsor, Kajabi. First, their customers just crossed a collective $8 billion in total revenue. Wow.
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