Dr. Andy Roark sits down with Anthony Pierlioni, VP of the Turtle Room and Manager of Training & Facilitation at VCA, to talk about his book, Veterinary Leadership Through Fresh Eyes. This heartfelt, candid conversation offers fresh insight into veterinary leadership from someone who took the long road to management, bringing empathy, emotional intelligence, and a social worker’s mindset into the veterinary world. Whether you’re new to veterinary practice management or mentoring the next generation of leaders, this episode delivers powerful reminders about how to lead with heart and hold accountability with compassion. Let's get into this episode!Don’t Navigate Vet Med AloneRunning a practice or leading a team shouldn’t feel isolating. The Uncharted Veterinary Community brings together forward-thinking veterinary professionals for real talk, expert learning, and endless support. From live events to practical training, this is your space to grow and connect. Dive in here: learn.unchartedvet.comJoin us for the Team Leads SummitThe Uncharted Team Leads Summit is a one-day virtual event designed to empower veterinary team leads with the skills and confidence they need to succeed. Through interactive workshops and real-time collaboration with peers, your leads will gain practical tools they can use immediately to support your team and strengthen your practice. Whether they oversee the front desk, the tech team, or daily operations, this summit will help them grow as leaders and drive your practice forward. Upcoming events: unchartedvet.com/upcoming-events/All Links: https://linktr.ee/UnchartedVetDo you have something that you would love Andy and Stephanie to discuss on the podcast? If so, send us a message through the mailbag! Submit it here: unchartedvet.com/mailbagGuest Bio: I have published 5 books - one on veterinary leadership and the other four on turtles. In addition to being a veterinary leader and former practice manager, I am a turtle conservationist. My focus in life is people, helping to support them in vet med and to help bridge gaps in species conservation. Even as animal people, it has to be about people of we hope to be successful at all.

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