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The Viall Files

E1062 - Going Deeper with Chris Appleton

14 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What inspired Chris Appleton to write his book 'Your Roots Don't Define You'?

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9.617 - 28.941 Nick Viall

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Chapter 2: How did Chris Appleton overcome his childhood challenges?

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All you have to do is go to Vow Files Plus and you will be lucky you did. Chris Appleton, welcome to the show. Thanks. We're very excited to have you.

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103.939 - 104.42 Chris Appleton

Me too.

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We're so excited.

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105.343 - 110.903 Chris Appleton

I've been watching from afar. Really? Yeah, it's just like a TikTok and stuff, you know, see the clips.

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Well, again, like I said, we're excited to have you. You have your new book coming out, Your Roots Don't Define You, which, first question, I always get fascinated as someone who wrote a book a while back, but I love the title of the book. Yeah.

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And I am curious how you came up with it, because I feel like when you're writing a book, you're in it, you're writing, and then you're just like, well, what do you think the title should be? And you're like, for me, that was a very...

134.558 - 157.933 Chris Appleton

difficult process because it feels like so much goes into it but i love the name obviously i love the play on words so i am curious like how did you come up with it did you have help with your team i mean it was kind of a combination of throwing ideas around but it came up pretty organically uh just because the basis of what the book was about but originally this wasn't the book there was a different book i wrote originally

Chapter 3: What life lessons did Chris learn from working with celebrities?

157.913 - 177.961 Chris Appleton

Which was maybe what people kind of know of me from social media. Like you work with celebrities, Lifebook's great. And I kind of just felt like it wasn't really a real representation of me where I'm at. And so we redid it. And I started with some, I guess, stuff I thought I'd never tell anyone. Like stuff that was once a real dark secret.

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So I have to say it was pretty full circle moment doing the whole thing. And then really the roots don't define you just came from the fact that it really does define so many people. And in my career, I've seen it define so many people, like celebrities, models, like regular men and women that come into a salon.

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195.595 - 211.631 Chris Appleton

Um, and I was like, I think we need to scratch the surface and take away a bit of this kind of glamorous polished image that maybe people know and show a few kind of raw truths. And I was like, well, in able to do that, I guess I have to be open with mine, you know, and maybe that I encourage someone else to do the same.

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Was that a fairly intimidating process?

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Brutal. Yeah.

Chapter 4: How does Chris Appleton handle imposter syndrome in his career?

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Yeah. It's the hardest thing I've ever done.

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Did you feel freeing even though it was scary and hard?

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220.57 - 237.852 Chris Appleton

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely been a real healing process. I didn't even know I needed. I thought I dealt with a lot of stuff. But even when I was redoing the audio side of it, I was like, oh my God, this stuff once was just such a dark secret, which I thought no one would ever know. And I know this has been recorded and it's going to go out for everyone to hear.

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238.473 - 255.433 Chris Appleton

But the thing is, you know, I've grown and worked with different people. I've experienced things where I'm like, So many people have been through this. And if it can help just one person, then you know what? It was worth doing because it's been a journey. People just see the end result. They're like, oh, it looks like you've got a great life.

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Chapter 5: What personal transformations did Chris experience after moving to America?

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But it's far from that. And it has been at times.

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I'm assuming you read your audio book with your soothing British voice.

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262.941 - 266.165 Chris Appleton

Yeah, the voice is on its last legs right now, hence the throat coat.

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As a fellow person with dyslexia, was that as brutal as it was for me?

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Yeah, I got into it with the audio woman.

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she's like again again i was like i'm dyslexic this is really i was like doing eight chapters a day which is a lot for me to read i was like i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i was just apologizing there was a couple sentences that took me five minutes you know yeah why i worked so hard yeah it's funny like you're kind of after a while the words start to like merge in a little bit i don't know i just need to keep drinking coffee and you know changing it up

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Well, I, again, I keep saying I'm excited to have a chat with you, but your story, I find to be very inspirational. And I think, you know, we're in a time today where I feel like a lot of people, all people are looking for inspiration. And I feel like the world is a place right now where it's hard to find.

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And, and I think sometimes often the world will, you know, tell it's, I think the world's full of excuses of why it's okay to fail. Or why it's okay to give up or not believe in yourself. And with all the people, you know, opinions are everywhere. They're unlimited online. And yet you have a story that, again, you know, you really started from...

Chapter 6: What strategies does Chris suggest for setting boundaries in relationships?

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nothing yeah and you've grown to be this ultra famous ultra successful stylist working with the biggest celebrities and really have overcome a ton of adversity and i just think it's really cool for i don't care who you are if whether you're someone who's super into hair or you're someone like me who's this kind of your typical guy who's a big sports fan but hearing your story

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You have so many just really great lessons of why you've come to be where you are. It's not an accident. I'm sure you've had a couple of great moments where you got lucky or you find yourself in the right place, but it's not an accident. And so much of what brought you here, all the processes and the discipline that you've had,

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and the in the choices you've made and i think it's just really inspirational oh thanks but i really appreciate that you know a few people have said that every fact everyone's read the book has said something along the lines which means a lot to me because uh yeah you don't know how people are going to sort of if you i think if you post a picture on instagram and you're topless it's like what they're going to say you look hot or not like who cares yeah

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But when you're actually putting stuff like this out, which is about your life and people can have an opinion on it, it's pretty scary.

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So it's been really nice to find, I've actually found a lot of people open up to me and like I've found very kind of comforting stories from it or being able to feel like they can tell me theirs, which I love because I think there should be more conversation around that because people are complicated and life's hard, you know, and I think it's good to have more conversations around it, especially probably someone from like me that looks like I have a slightly different life to what people know.

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you know i do come from like we were really poor as kids uh and we had a really humble upbringing you know my mom like she was her mom and dad got murdered when she was 10. my dad got put in a home when he was five like they sort of survived um but that gets inherited you don't really realize you pick up these kind of patterns and then you take them off into your own adult life and i didn't realize how much affected me

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Until I did. And then that's when, yeah, that was the hardest time of my life. But I just wanted to be able to, like I say, just maybe connect to someone that also feels the same. And it's brought up a lot of different conversations, which I think are good.

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You write in your book a little bit about your childhood and how pulling parts of your childhood that... I talk to a lot of people who, whether they have issues at home, maybe don't have a great relationship with their parents, or just maybe have... maybe a darker childhood, and they want to just completely forget it, wipe it away.

Chapter 7: How does Chris Appleton view the impact of social media on personal identity?

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And you talk a little bit in your book, and I'd love to have you elaborate more, the importance of not doing that. There's still something to pull and something to learn and figuring out what parts of your past really help shape you and then what parts that you want to maybe create new beginnings for yourself. And I guess, at what point in your life did you kind of come to that awareness?

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I think in reflections of what you're saying, like so many people are stuck and a lot of people and like the reader will find this in the book that people get to the point where they look in the mirror and they're like, is this it? Like, is this my life? How did I get here? You know, because we look in the mirror like 10 or 12 times a day.

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We just glance like you're brushing your teeth, you're doing your hair, whatever, you're picking your face. You're not very often stopping and really like looking and saying like, am I aligned on the inside with like what my outside image is?

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is you know we don't always go that deep there is a time that you do it without necessarily knowing which is when you sit in the hairdresser's chair and usually there's that kind of voice which is the hater and I talk about a chapter in this in the book where most people I found they sat in the chair and they would pull themselves apart and speak to themselves like they say the worst things about themselves like

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You know, it started with like, is the lighting bad? Is this lighting bad? Like, God, I've got gray or like my wrinkles or my hair. Yeah. You know, the, the, the hater.

Chapter 8: What advice does Chris have for those struggling with self-acceptance?

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And there's basically techniques in the book, which I also wanted to sort of incorporate to be able to like, I still have them now. I'm still triggered all the time, but instead of it being a volume 10, it's like down to a two and you can come back to yourself and come back to like who you are as an adult, because it's not actually about deleting your past.

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It's about using it as motivation to, I guess, empower where you're at now. And a lot of us go back to like our childhood state. And a lot of the time I think we want to like erase the dark parts of our life. And I definitely did that for a long time. But when I was a kid at school, I was very quickly told kind of what I was.

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So I was dyslexic at school, which as you know, mate, it kind of, I don't know, were you told you were stupid? Not stupid. How old are you? I'm 45. I'm 42. Yeah. You see, I don't think dyslexia when I was a kid wasn't really a thing. Oh, I had no idea. No.

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Yeah, I was just like, I can't read out loud. You know, you remember in school, you'd have to read a passage and I would be terrified to have to read it because I just couldn't. So, not so much stupid, but yeah, I was like, why can't you read?

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Yeah. It was kind of like you either learn from the board and write it down and memorize it. Otherwise, you know, if I spoke about something, I'd get it. I could bring life to it. So really, I was kind of I was putting like the special needs class. And yeah, I felt pretty like I was stupid. I was told that. And then I started doing hair pretty young.

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My mom, I always I always noticed she had a rough life.

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Yeah.

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And I kind of did her hair around the age of nine and she'd stand up and look in the mirror and I'd be like, oh, wow, you get to make people really feel something. Because I'd try and make her look glamorous, which was very far from what she looked like.

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What were you doing at nine?

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