In this edition of The Way Out I’m ecstatic to bring you my interview with Recovery Coach, Recovery Podcaster, and person in long term Recovery Matt Gardiner. Matt hosts the Beyond Recovery Podcast and it was a true honor to share my journey to and through recovery to this point on his podcast recently, so check that out if you are so inclined and to that end, I’ve included a handy link to that episode in the show notes. Every once in a great while, you meet someone where everything just seems to click, and this is precisely what happened with Matt and I right off the bat - we quickly hit it off and it truly felt as we were old friends. We found we have so much in common, from our mutual love of great 90’s music like Nirvana, to playing guitar and songwriting, and from being bullied in adolescence to having a close friend in Recovery provide that essential helping hand to get into and launch ourselves into recovery. Throw in each of us having multiple attempts at recovery prior to our most recent and with any luck our last and both of us being Recovery Coaches, Recovery Podcasters and people in long term recovery we are indeed brothers from other mothers and our ensuing conversation is absolutely jam packed with spiritual and recovery truth as well as Matt’s journey to and through Recovery to this point so listen up. Contact Matt: https://linktr.ee/mattgardiner555 My interview with Matt on his Beyond Recovery Podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/user/mattgardiner/audio1348297952 Recommended Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit): Alcohol is SH!T: How to Ditch the Booze, Re-ignite Your Life, and Recover the Person you Were Always Meant to be by by Paul Churchill: https://www.amazon.com/Alcohol-SH-Re-ignite-Recover-Person/dp/1086176545 Best Piece of Recovery Advice: 'The Opposite Of Addiction Is Not Sobriety. The Opposite Of Addiction Is Connection' - Yohann Hari Songs that Symbolize Recovery: Bulls on Parade by Rage Against the Machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4 After the Goldrush by Neil Young: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOMaqe0LOmo Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2022 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd

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