In this edition of The Way Out I’m absolutely delighted to bring you my interview with fellow Recovery Podcaster and person in long term Recovery, Gary Menkes. Gary Recovers Out Loud with us and shares his journey to and through recovery with the remarkable insight and candor that only comes from a person that has experienced the depths of despair that alcoholism and addiction can bring, followed by an enlightening and inspiring recovery. A recovery that was not linear, and indeed imperfect, which makes it all the more inspirational. Equally as inspiring, is Gary’s decision to help others Recover Out Loud with The Begin Again Podcast, of which our amazing cohost Jason and I were able to be on recently, and the episode featuring Jason and I is now available for your listening pleasure, a handy link to that episode is in the show notes for your convenience so give it a listen, won’t you? We bet you won’t be able to stop there, as Gary is already doing great work with The Begin Again Podcast. Gary’s message is that if you’re struggling with addiction, alcoholism, or any variety of substance use disorder, is this: You’re not alone, and you don’t have to live the way you’re living anymore if you don’t want to. You can have a life you don’t feel compelled to escape, one with purpose, serenity, joy, and love. I do believe that after you’re done listening to the interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears, that you all will be as big of fans of Gary Menkes as we here at The Way Out Podcast are so listen up. Contact Gary and check out The Begin Again Podcast: https://thebeginagainpodcast.com The Episode featuring Jason & Charlie: https://thebeginagainpodcast.com/2023/08/04/ep-4-the-gift-of-surrender-healing-and-hope-with-charlie-and-jason/ Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The AA Big Book: https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Drop the Rock by Bill P.: https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/6666?Drop-the-Rock-Second-Edition Best pieces of Recovery advice: Don't drink and go to meetings, find people who have what you want, find a sponsor, get a service commitment. Song that symbolizes Recoveyr to Gary: Simple Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd - https://youtu.be/8eNoms9wsGc Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2023 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

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