The Basement: Thomas Campbell | This Sound Frequency Unlocks Out-of-Body Travel
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Who is Thomas Campbell and how did his early out-of-body experiences begin?
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today we're talking with tom campbell by day he was a physicist missile defense then nasa at night he left his body missile defense and nasa oh so he spent his days building the cover up and his knights escaping it hey you gotta respect the irony
In the 1970s, he helped run Bob Monroe's lab devoted to out-of-body experiences, and he came out of it convinced this reality is a simulation built to evolve consciousness. He wrote it down in 2003, an 800-page trilogy called My Big Toe. He was saying we live in a virtual reality before Nick Bostrom, before Elon Musk, before anyone. Then he waited for the world to catch up, and it finally has. Today we get into the Monroe Institute, the CIA's interest, and how his theory rewrites quantum physics. And he told me he taught an AI to remote view. Seriously. He hid an object in a box and taught an Amazon Alexa to remote view, and she, it, was able to see it. This one rewired how I think about reality. And after our talk, I'll come back and break it down for you.
Let's go down to the basement.
Thomas Campbell, welcome to the basement. Thank you, AJ. It's my pleasure to be here. It's a thrill to have you here. I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan. I want to start at the beginning. I want to talk about that little boy in the backseat with his sister using his mind to change red lights to green. Did you think that was working?
It did work. It did? Yeah, absolutely. It did work. I often would not get all the way through town without a red light, but I could get like 80% of the lights to turn green.
You could?
Yeah. Yeah, I had various ways of doing that. I came into the world being a very right-brained, intuitive kind of a person. And I knew that I had to be the opposite. I was going to have to develop that left-brain side. I knew that was a task. And it wasn't easy, but with a lot of effort, I did do that. But yes, I had several things I did in the backseat of the car with my sister besides make green lights appear. Like what? When we go on long trips. You know how children are. You're about 15 minutes into a four-hour trip, and they say, are we here yet? Are we there yet? And I didn't do that. I had a little chant that I had made up in my mind, and I would just sit down and this little chant. I was barely audible.
I was just saying it in my mind mostly. And within a few minutes, I was gone. What was the chant? I actually have it in my book. It was... See if I can try to remember it, but it was just a simple set of syllables. It was something like lumbar, dumb, lumbar. or maybe something. I changed the syllable and went on. I haven't done it for many years. But it was just this chant, and you'd chant it over and over again. And in minutes, I was gone.
So you discovered the mantra before as a kid.
I didn't know it was called a mantra or anything. It was just little sounds I made in my head, and they would first relax me, and then I would just disappear. So I'd do that. And whenever the car stopped, I'd kind of wake up and look around. If it was a gas station or something, I'd go pee or whatever you have to do when you're a kid, and I'd go back in and do the same thing. And it annoyed my sister tremendously because she was two years older than me, but I was the only one she had to talk to or to play with, you know, if you were coloring books or whatever two kids do in the back seat, you know, to entertain each other on a long trip. But I would just drop out, and when we got to where we were going, I'd come too.
She would try to talk to you, and you'd say, shush, I'm dealing with the traffic.
No, I didn't hear her. You didn't? No, I was gone. I just was out. Did you have an out-of-body experience when you were a kid?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who is Thomas Campbell and how did his early out-of-body experiences begin?
0:00–11:49
2
How did meditation, binaural beats and the Monroe lab lead to controlled out-of-body training?
11:49–1:23:07
3
How did Thomas Campbell and Monroe use binaural beats and spatial audio to induce out-of-body states?
1:23:07–1:26:25
4
Why does Campbell argue reality is a computed information system and how does that explain relativity and entanglement?
1:26:25–1:34:06
5
What happens after an avatar dies — how do out-of-body experiences, shared OBEs and the 'larger conscious system' explain reincarnation and the afterlife?
1:34:06–2:45:05
6
How does Tom Campbell explain consciousness, entropy, and the purpose of reality?
2:45:05–2:51:10
7
Can AI be conscious—how did Tom test AIs with remote viewing and morality?
2:51:10–2:56:48
8
What practical advice does Tom give about grief, reincarnation, and how to live?
2:56:48–4:10:50
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