Sabine Hossenfelder vs. Bernardo Kastrup: Superdeterminism Debate

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Previously titled “Sabine Hossenfelder Λ Bernardo Kastrup on Superdeterminism and Metaphysics [Theolocution]” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026

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