Salvatore Pais: The Navy's UFO Patents and the Pais Effect

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Previously titled “Salvatore Pais on Quantum Gravity, UFO Patents, Pais Effect, and the Superforce [Part 1 of 2]” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026

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YouTube link: https://youtu.be/5E6QyAhTB3o Salvatore Pais is an aerospace engineer and inventor (Naval Air Station). Sponsors: -Ground News: https://ground.news/toe -Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off. -Algo: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ and website https://www.algo.com/. Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802 Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch SALVATORE PAIS' PAPERS: -https://www.inderscienceonline.com/doi/abs/10.1504/IJSPACESE.2015.075910 -https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/2017-01-2040/ -https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8871349 -https://www.inderscienceonline.com/doi/abs/10.1504/IJSPACESE.2015.069339 -https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2019-0869 -https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2017-5343 -https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991saea.confR....P/abstract LINKS MENTIONED: -"Ashtekar Bounce" / Robustness of key features of loop quantum cosmology: https://arxiv.org/abs/0710.3565 -Eric Davis' "Frontiers of Propulsion Science" book: https://amzn.to/3JKBdL3 -Converstaoins on Quantum Gravity: https://amzn.to/3tPtHJj -Ross Coulthart's "In Plain Sight": https://amzn.to/3tQn1e7 -Carlo Rovelli podcast: https://youtu.be/r_fUPbBNmBw -David Gross with Carlo Rovelli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUyylR5RPZw -Ross Coulthart's interview: https://youtu.be/JM3kxeU_oDE TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:58 The story behind the UFO patents 00:09:23 Why Sal emailed Curt to come onto TOE 00:12:16 The Pais Effect 00:13:38 The UFO patents 00:17:28 Responding to the patent officer's initial rejection 00:21:23 Energy in the quantum vacuum (introduction to the Superforce) 00:23:58 Are the patents disinformation? A bluff to scare off China? 00:25:13 Why did James Sheehy say the technology was "operable"? 00:26:31 Can we use the 1 Coulomb charge, necessary for the Pais effect? 00:28:05 The inspiration for Pais' patents 00:29:15 Spin vs. Vibration 00:30:19 Piezoelectric materials (pulsing electricity through it) 00:35:11 Eric Davis' book helped introduce these ideas to Sal 00:36:19 The Schwinger effect 00:39:13 The Gertsenshtein effect 00:42:35 Microwave emitters inside the walls of the craft 00:46:15 The Prigogine effect 00:50:57 Why Quantum Gravity is so non-trivial (Curt's detour into the math) 00:58:32 The Superforce / Plank force 01:10:21 [Dan Zetterstrom] Ball lightning and plasma 01:11:17 UFO orbs are probes in the form of plasma 01:16:10 Trying to publish on Arxiv 01:17:47 Publishing the patents 01:22:49 If UAPs operate via this effect, can we detect it? (back of the envelope calculation) 01:23:21 Being called a sharlatan and a crank... 01:26:36 How much time / money would it cost to build the technology? 01:28:24 Why didn't the gov't file the patents secretly instead? ("hiding in plain sight") 01:31:34 What does Sal make of the claims of "disinformation" 01:33:33 It hurts to be called a sharlatan and a crank... 01:35:24 Eric Davis and Hal Puthoff 01:37:13 Being kind, even those who are unkind to you... 01:38:47 Physics without philosophy is like a seed without water 01:45:30 Convincing James Sheehy 01:50:05 Podkletnov's and Ning Li's research 01:54:56 Has something occurred "behind the scenes" that allows Sal to come forward? 01:58:32 Sal's message to the audience Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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