Andres Gomez-Emilsson: The Science of Engineered Conscious States
episodePreviously titled “The Science of New States of Consciousness | Andrés Gómez Emilsson” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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What are the four hard constraints any theory of consciousness must satisfy?
What's the most important problem for a scientific theory of consciousness to solve?
Oh my goodness. That's that's a wonderful question. Um I think uh I would have difficulty prioritizing just one. I'm gonna say there's four that any scientific theory of consciousness must be able to satisfy. Um, which is first of all, any theory of consciousness has to explain why consciousness exists to begin with. Um second, it has to explain w what's called the palette problem. Essentially w what are all of the qualia values and varieties out there and the interrelationship between them? You know, why is there The blueness of blue and you know the way as a rose smells, like wha what is that and how are they connected to each other? Uh the third is what are the causal properties of consciousness? Like in in other words, w why are we conscious, you know, from a biological evolutionary perspective?
What kind of function is it playing? And then the fourth one is uh the binding problem. You know, how is it possible that You know, pieces of information can actually be put together into unified moments of experience and For me, you know, these are kind of like four r hard constraints that any theory of consciousness must be able to satisfy. And I think what is Very common though is for theories of consciousness to only really care about a few of them or sometimes like not none of them at all. Um but I think like yeah, I mean it's sort of like if you wanna go to the moon, you've gotta have be able to not only, you know, have the escape velocity to get there, you also, you know, need an airtight container, right?
Like so that you don't uh asphyxiate on the way there. And I I I think of it something like that. You know, there's like a series of things a theory of consciousness must be able to do. And if you only do a few of them, it's not really a theory of consciousness.
Okay, we're going to get to your background, who you are, how you got interested in the in the field of consciousness, but I noticed you didn't talk about the hard problem nor the boundary problem. I'm curious as to why.
Yeah, great question. I tend to uh in a sense like lump together the binding problem and the boundary problem, even though legitimately you you can think of them as different sub-problems. Um the reason I do this is that I I sort of think of them as equivalent, just in different ontologies. So if you start out in kind of the the common sense view of the universe, where the universe is made of atoms and forces. then typically you will think of it as like the the binding problem. But it's like how is it possible that atoms, you know, and and neurons can somehow be put together into unified experiences. If you start out with a different ontology, which is uh a unified ontology, let's say uh a a field ontology where you say, hey, the universe is a gigantic field, you know, um, then you really have kind of the boundary problem.
It's like how do you get this that is already unified to break down into subcomponents? Um so you know, I I I think like there's a lot more detail to it, but uh I I tend to think of um kind of like Two sides of the same coin. Um, as to the hard problem of consciousness, in a sense, um the hard problem of consciousness thrives on an ontology where consciousness is really surprising, uh, especially yeah, if if you kind of like started out with an ontology, um, like in materialism. Or the universe is made of insentient matter. then, you know, as David Chalmers would would put it, um Okay, like how do you go from form and structure or you know, like function and behavior? to subjective experience. And like that seems kind of a an you know unbridgeable you know leap in a sense.
Um however if you start out with an ontology where you say well the existence or or the universe is fundamentally made of consciousness or or qualia. Then the hard problem as stated is is not really kind of like valid or or doesn't really apply. You really would have like other problems to deal with, uh which is usually how we think about it at at the Qualia Research Institute.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the four hard constraints any theory of consciousness must satisfy?
0:00–8:34
2
How does the discussion connect the hard problem, binding problem, and boundary problem?
8:34–9:35
3
What experiences shaped Andrés Gómez‑Emilsson’s interest in consciousness research?
9:35–19:42
4
What is the Qualia Research Institute and what are its main goals?
19:42–1:30:58
5
What are the different stages of self‑identification and how do they relate to consciousness transformation?
1:30:58–1:45:49
6
Is “psychedelic Buddhism” an oxymoron or a viable path for spiritual growth?
1:45:49–2:14:51
7
How do 5‑MeO‑DMT, DMT and MDMA differ in their effects on the mind and on therapeutic outcomes?
2:14:51–2:39:29
8
What do the “vortices”, laser‑like phenomena and entity encounters reveal about the brain’s electromagnetic field?
2:39:29–2:54:19
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