Jacob Barandes and Manolis Kellis: What Quantum Physics Got Wrong
episodePreviously titled “What 100 Years of Quantum Physics Got Wrong | Jacob Barandes Λ Manolis Kellis” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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Why do physicists claim particles can be in two places at once?
Every time a physicist says to you, quantum physics has demonstrated that a particle can be in two places at once. They are lying to you.
Biology, consciousness, causation, and quantum physics, what is the connection? My name is Kurt Jaimungle, and this was part of my three day tour of Harvard, Tufts, and MIT, where I recorded five podcasts, including a frolic sum salon discussion hosted by MIT's Monolis Kellis, one of the world's top computational biologists. A few weeks ago, Monolis graciously offered to host both me and Harvard's theoretical physicist and philosopher Jacob. Barandis for a salon on the nature of quantum theory. This event is unlike any podcast that you've seen or heard due to the extemporaneous dynamism of the over 70 people who showed up within just a few days' notice. The other podcasts from this tour feature Michael Levin and Anna Chaunika, as well as a separate discussion, an over seven hours long one, with technical and concrete information regarding Jacob's approach to indivisible stochastic processes.
Subscribe to get notified. For now, enjoy this jazz-like conversation regarding fundamental questions such as do quantum fields actually exist? What's the problem with many worlds? Do parallel universes solve anything? And what makes observers like you special? So Jacob, can you can you just give us a little introduction into what you do? Tell us like maybe two, three minutes about your journey. How did you get where you are? What are you passionate about? What are you the most excited about? And uh, you know, what do you think we should really you know, if there's one thing to know, what should we know?
When I was a little kid, I was really interested in the philosophy of mind. I didn't know it was called the philosophy of mind, but uh late later I would realize that's what this was called. I was um uh uh confused about what it w why we existed and and the nature of consciousness and all these sorts of questions. Um I had a knack for math and I went to college and I thought, well, if you like math and you like deep questions, then you do physics. Physics, and so I studied physics and I had a good time. Um and then I went to graduate school and I worked in high energy theoretical physics. I did my PhD um in theoretical physics. Um and um you know I uh had some difficulty connecting with the research that was going on in high energy theoretical physics.
It it it didn't um It didn't connect with me at some deep level. And, you know, over, you know, my PhD, halfway through toward the end, I began to reconnect with my earlier interest in philosophy, in particular philosophy of science. Um, I got very interested in a whole bunch of different areas in philosophy of science, in an area that we would now call philosophy of physics, um, and in related areas that are closer to uh to to the sciences like quantum foundations. Um so when I finished my my PhD, um I you know started doing research in the area, writing papers. Um my partner in crime is right here, David Kagan. We we were close friends and collaborators, yeah. Um And uh I began interacting more and more with the community of people who work in philosophy of science.
And I realized this was this was my calling. Um and uh so I think what
is philosophy of saying
uh. Good good question. What is philosophy of science? Um so broadly speaking, and this is philosophy of science, it's not exactly well, I'll say what I do in a moment, but philosophy of science, broadly speaking, um has several parts. Uh one part is the study of what it is that scientists do, right? So it's the the study of the phonology of science. The ornithology of science. Yes. So scientists as birds and we observe their their habits. Uh and there's the old line, right, that uh that that uh this Mm-hmm. Um
it's actually a valid it's a valid point, I have to say. However, I will say it might be helpful to the observers of the birds.
That's very very, very good, yes. Um but the other major side of philosophy of science is is to go deep into our best, most successful scientific theories, uh, understand how they work, um, and you know, either try to glean an understanding, uh a new way of thinking about traditional questions in philosophy, it's in particular areas of philosophy like metaphysics, from what are best friends.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
Why do physicists claim particles can be in two places at once?
0:00–5:44
2
What is Jacob Barandes' academic background and his view of philosophy of science?
5:44–13:46
3
What is metaphysics and how does it connect to physics and quantum foundations?
13:46–1:01:29
4
Do quantum observers need to be conscious, and how many particles make a system an observer?
1:01:29–1:22:48
5
What is the role of non‑locality in quantum mechanics and can Bell’s beables resolve it?
1:22:48–1:46:54
6
Can quantum effects in biology or the brain bridge the gap between the easy and hard problems of consciousness?
1:46:54–1:55:30
Speakers
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