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This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is The Conversation The Trump Administration Tried To Cancel (Live From Davos!)

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What did the Trump administration try to cancel?

0.031 - 24.097 Ben Smith

thank you all for for joining us um and i actually wanted to start you uh you or your you tweeted last or posted last night all right this was this was the tweet the the conversation and yes thank you for joining us governor thank you so much to the web for hosting this this is the conversation that donald trump tried to cancel don't miss it 11 30 pacific thank you to our Pacific Time viewers.

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Chapter 2: How are CEOs responding to Trump's rhetoric?

24.818 - 36.635 Ben Smith

In fact, this is a different conversation. In the WEF's defense, it was the privately run USA House, which is endorsed by the State Department, funded by big American companies, which did pull an event with you with Fortune yesterday.

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37.256 - 47.571 Ben Smith

And I guess I wondered, to begin with, what does that tell you about the way the US private sector, which is really very heavily represented here, is addressing this political moment?

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47.551 - 52.645 Gavin Newsom

I admit, looking at the list, McKinsey and Microsoft and a few California companies.

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Chapter 3: What tactics does Newsom use to counter Trump's insults?

53.808 - 60.345 Gavin Newsom

So, what the hell are they even talking about? But it's indicative, I think, of America for those of you who are not American.

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Chapter 4: How is America's role on the world stage changing?

60.626 - 85.506 Gavin Newsom

It gives you a sense of what we're up against. and what's happening across my country and what happened here in Davos. I was going to speak last night. It was a well-established event at the USA House, a simple conversation, discussion. After Trump's speech, they made sure that I didn't. They made sure it was canceled. And that's what's happening in the United States of America.

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85.486 - 91.155 Gavin Newsom

freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech. It's America in reverse.

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Chapter 5: What is California's economic record under the Democratic Party?

91.215 - 101.892 Gavin Newsom

They're censoring historical facts. They're rewriting history. They're censoring books, 4,340 books, libraries, and in schools banned in the United States of America.

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Chapter 6: How is immigration impacting California's policies?

101.872 - 122.24 Gavin Newsom

You're watching institutions. Any institution of independent thinking is under assault and attack by the Trump administration. You're seeing what's playing out in the streets of American cities, what played out in California, the second largest city in the United States of America. 4,000 National Guard were federalized. 700 active duty Marines were not sent overseas.

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Chapter 7: What is the significance of California's progressive tax structure?

122.26 - 144.67 Gavin Newsom

They were sent to my largest city in the state of California. Masked men. Guy Greg Bovino, dressed up as if he literally went on eBay and purchased S.S. Garb. Greg Bovino, secret police, private army, masked men, people disappearing quite literally, no due process, windows being smashed.

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Chapter 8: How does Newsom view the future of American democracy?

145.308 - 171.928 Gavin Newsom

seatbelts on, being literally just sort of cut off, people dragged in the streets, kids separated from families, knocking on doors, racially profiling American citizens. So is it surprising the Trump administration didn't like my commentary? And wanted to make sure that I was not allowed to speak? No. It's consistent with this administration and their authoritarian tendencies. Forgive me.

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172.549 - 174.334 Gavin Newsom

These are objective facts.

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174.574 - 178.183 Unknown

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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179.176 - 199.481 Ben Smith

But I would say this was not, just to be clear, this was a private enterprise endorsed by the State Department. But these are a lot of decisions that are being made by private companies right now. This is a capital, this is probably the central global gathering of CEOs. And I guess I wonder if you can give me a review of how you see these folks. And you know your way around this world.

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199.841 - 201.403 Ben Smith

How do you see those people behaving?

202.48 - 224.111 Gavin Newsom

Society becomes how we behave. We are our behaviors. We're not bystanders in this world. The world we're experiencing happened on our watch. So in the relationship to your question, yeah, they're complicit in some respects to this moment. Forgive me, you brought up a tweet, but part of my approach has been a little more aggressive than perhaps a lot of American politicians.

224.832 - 253.637 Gavin Newsom

I created a patriot site. On the site, you can go, there are knee pads that are available to purchase. The last round of knee pads sold out, just as our law firms are selling out, many American universities are selling out, and yes, many corporate leaders are selling out to this administration. Selling out our values, selling out our future. selling out what makes America great.

254.723 - 278.848 Gavin Newsom

And it breaks my heart. And people need to stand up. People need courage in their damn convictions. We're at the 250th anniversary of the United States of America this year. It's the 250th anniversary. The best of the Roman Republic, Greek democracy, co-equal branches of government, the rule of law, popular sovereignty. Tell me that that reflects the America you read about today.

278.888 - 301.056 Gavin Newsom

There's no rule of law. It's the rule of dawn. I hope for Europeans, it's dawning on you. It's not the rule of law. You don't have co-equal branches of government. You have a supine Congress. You don't have a Speaker of the House. It doesn't exist. Popular sovereignty being challenged every single day by voter suppression, trying to rig elections.

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