Paul Greengrass: Turning Andrew Garfield Into a Medieval Rebel
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Why does Paul Greengrass say modern rage against elites mirrors the 1381 Peasants’ Revolt?
Wherever you look, I think across our country, the US, you know, Europe, you know, across the world, there's this deep sense of rage against the elites, if you want to call them that. People feeling left behind, people feeling that they've not got a future. fair shake out of the changes that they've been made to carry too much of the burden you know whatever it is it's a feeling that it's a rigged game these are all tropes and truths that people really really feel deeply and I think that obviously our politicians and for those of us who don't maybe feel so left behind find it hard to understand how strongly that feeling is.
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Hello, listeners. You're listening to This Is History In Conversation, and it's my very great pleasure to be in conversation with one of the great film directors of our time, Paul Greengrass. And everyone will know Paul from his brilliant work, United 93, some of the Bourne films, The Green Zone, and many, many more. But this week, in fact, Paul's latest film, The Uprising, comes out, which is all about a favourite topic on this podcast, the Peasants' Revolt... of 1381 so hello paul welcome to the podcast
that's very kind of lovely to be here with you dan and uh Well, we share this great passion, don't we? The Peasants' Revolt.
Well, I wonder if we can start there because I'm trying to cast my mind back maybe three or four years when we first talked about the Peasants' Revolt because you had started work on a script about this event. And as I recall then, although do correct me, you had a few different historical moments in mind. And I just want to talk to you about what drew you to this one in particular.
The sort of antecedents of this particular film were just before lockdown. I spent quite a bit of time thinking about doing a sort of English rebel film. That was what I wanted to do. And it ended up Being one of two, really, I explored doing a film about the resistance to the Norman invasion. So 106789. Or the Peasants' Revolt. I mean, that was really it. And there are some similarities of theme and also... what they say about England specifically, but our islands today. And cinematically, that's obviously rich territory, you know, rebel movements are always interesting. It was informed a bit about being in Suffolk and coming, as I do, from Gravesend, which is one of the places where, as you know, the Peasants' Revolt
sprung up, you know, Gravesend, Maidstone, crossed the water in the coastal areas of Essex, the Essex marshes, Suffolk, you know, those were the prime territories. That's where my forebears come from. So it all felt, Weirdly personal, you know, I started with the idea of a fictional character, you know, Plowman, I call him. He's a farmer, basically. He's a peasant farmer in a place a bit like Fobbing. I mean, we never say it's Fobbing, but it's obviously close to Brentwood because Brentwood is depicted there. And I just tried to, you know, in a way that a lot of writers do, you try and create a fictional character and put him in the backdrop of the real events and the real world.
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