How customer obsession is driving success at Lyft

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Why did David Risher decide to drive a Lyft every six weeks as CEO?

David Risher 0:00
You know, in the lab, sitting around looking at the data, surge pricing looks like an economist dream. Right. In the real world, it's just super annoying. It's like a hundred percent of customers hate it. You kind of see the data in the aggregate, maybe it's not people's favorite feature. Then you talk to a person and then that's how you really get conviction.
Unknown 0:17
Welcome to This Is Working, where leaders share their strategies for success and the lessons that shape them. A CEO of Lyft, David Richer is in the business of moving people. He took the helm in 2023 when the company was losing money and losing ground to Uber. His turnaround strategy was simple. Stop chasing everything and get obsessed with the customer. Since then, Lyft has returned to profitability, expanded into Europe, and added millions of new riders. David, welcome to This Is Working. It's great to be here. So, first of all, wh when I see you on LinkedIn, it is usually in the driver's seat. Often a picture of you driving a lift. Yeah. Do you still do it every six weeks or so? I do. Okay. What made you decide to make that part of how you CEO and what have you learned from it?
Unknown 1:00
Do you drive your own car? Do you drive uh uh what what how does it work? Yeah, I drive my own car. Okay.
David Risher 1:04
Uh, I don't tell anyone I'm gonna do it. So this isn't a sort of a PR thing. It's like a it's a learning thing. Yeah. Our focus has been on customer obsession. And CEOs say this these words all the time. In my view, there is literally no substitute for sort of getting the experience yourself. Well, we have two customers in every car, a a driver and a rider. And so it does double duty. It's like you can sit in the driver's seat, learn about the driver experience, and talk to your riders as well.

How did riding in the driver’s seat shape his view on customer obsession?

David Risher 1:25
Just like any other driver, I turn the app on and wait for ride requests to come in. The most recent driver. drive I did was a couple of weeks ago and I picked up a couple who it turned out was had just gotten engaged and it was super, super fun. And so of course they were all smiles and all the rest. I dropped them off actually at a winery. That's cool. It's not like I learned a lot about driving them, but I sure had a good time and they did too.
Unknown 1:46
Did that increase your driver rating?
David Risher 1:48
And I don't want to bra I am a five-star driver.
Unknown 1:50
Nice. All right. I would hope so. How do you think about taking this customer session, things that you might pick up and you have to translate what they're saying and then bring it back to your teams and say, here's what we're doing wrong or here's where we need to go. Can you just talk about that process? Sure.
David Risher 2:03
Sure. In a sense, it's obvious. It can't just be about the data and it can't just be about the anecdote. It has to be something where you you kind of see these these converging. And so I'll give you a specific example. Well, 18 months ago, I picked a woman up early in the morning and she said, Well, look, every single morning I get up and I wonder and ask, you know, the apps, how much is it going to cost me to get to work? If it's 20 bucks, I'll take a lift or I'll take the other guys if they're cheaper. If it's 30 bucks, it kind of stresses me out, but maybe I still will anyway. Maybe I'll drive myself, but parking's expensive. If it's 40 bucks, I might even stay home. You know, it's it's so she kind of goes through the same.
David Risher 2:38
And I realized, you know, in the lab, you know, sitting around looking at the data, surge pricing looks like an economist dream. Right. In the real world, it's just super annoying. It's like a hundred percent of customers hate it. So this led to price lock, which is a product that we have that allows people to lock in a certain price. Price. You kind of see the data in the aggregate. Maybe it's not people's favorite feature. Then you talk to a person, and then that's how you really get conviction.

What specific rider conversation sparked the price‑lock product?

David Risher 2:59
And frankly, that's how you get your team motivated too. Yeah.
Unknown 3:01
How do you make sure that the data isn't winning in a case like that?
David Risher 3:05
So This company had been a very early innovator, Lyft had been, right? In a sense, it brought rideshare to the masses.

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