This Must Be The Place: The Building Science Podcast
Episodes
Season 4, Episode 4: Lorrie Rand
05 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Shawna interviews Lorrie Rand, a certified passive house designer, Co-Founder and Director of Sustainability at Habitat Studio, and ...
Season 4, Episode 3: Peter Amerongen
04 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Shawna welcomes Peter Amerongen, the President of Retrofit Canada. They delve into Peter's extensive experience in retrofitting ...
Season 4, Episode 2: Trevor Trainor
03 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Shawna welcomes Trevor Trainor, President of Bawating Building Science, focusing on his work in Indigenous housing conditions in Nor...
Season 4, Episode 1: CACEA Panel Discussion
02 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to season four - woohoo!After a long hiatus, we start off with a new-too-us format: a panel discussion. Episode one is a discussion about the ...
Shay Bulmer - Founder and General Manager of Northern Homecraft Ltd.
03 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be The Place Shawna is joined by Shay Bulmer, the founder and General Manager of Northern Homecraft Ltd., an award-winnin...
Jodi Huettner - President and CEO of Helga Wear Inc.
27 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Innovator and disruptor Jodi Huettner joins Shawna for this episode of This Must be The Place. Jodi is the driving force behind creating and supplying...
Chris Magwood - Manager, Carbon Free Buildings at Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) and Director, Builders for Climate Action
20 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna chats with Chris MagWood, a crusader for reversing climate change and for the past 25 years he has d...
Lorrie Rand - Sustainability Director at Habit Studio
14 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Shawna is joined by Lorrie Rand in this episode of This Must Be The Place. Lorrie is the Sustainability Director at Habit Studio, a company she co-fou...
Kendall Ansel - Owner of Belle Construction and Kendall Ansell Interiors
06 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna chats with Kendall Ansell-sometimes referred to as a “Fairy Design Mother” and a “gender-smash...
How do we inspire and disrupt the industry moving forward to meet our energy efficiency targets? Guest Jesse Hitchcock - Senior Analyst at Customer Energy Solutions
29 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Shawna introduces the final theme of season 3—how do we inspire and disrupt the industry moving forward to meet our energy efficienc...
Yasmin Abraham - Empower Me: VP, Business Development and Co-Founder
22 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna is joined by fellow educator—Yasmin Abraham. A multi-award winner and recognized nationally and in...
Kirk Johnson - President, Eco-Efficiency Consulting
15 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna covers a lot of important ground with guest Kirk Johnson. He has worked passionately over the past t...
Chelsah Thomas - Founder/Owner of Sol Invictu
15 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna is joined by Chelsah Thomas, the founder and owner of Sol Invictus, energy consulting for builders a...
Ian Scholten - Program Director at Indigenous Clean Energy Social Enterprise
01 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna chats with Ian Scholten, Program Director at Indigenous Clean Energy Social Enterprise, or ICE. He i...
Nate Adams - House Guru. Author and Speaker
25 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Shawna chats with Nate Adams in this week’s episode of This Must be The Place. When it comes to making your home more comfortable and efficient-Nate...
Andy Cockburn Director of Education and Training at NAIMA ( the North American Insulation Manufacturers Association)
18 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andy Cockburn joins Shawna for a deep dive into theme 2 of Season 3: We’re kinda stuck. What do we need to do to get out of our own way? Tune in to ...
Ross Elliot - “Mr. Energy”
11 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna chats with the inimitable Ross Elliot. Known as “Mr. Energy”, he is an award-winning and sought-...
Richard Kadulski - Vancouver-based Architect
04 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna’s guest is Vancouver-based architect, Richard Kadulski. Most recently he was inducted into the Gre...
Gail Lawlor - Industry trailblazer and natural born teacher
28 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna is joined by industry trailblazer and natural born teacher Gail Lawlor. She has worked in a variety ...
Don Fugler - Award-winning building science researcher
21 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna’s guest is award-winning building science researcher Don Fugler. He spent 25 years leading researc...
Oliver Drerup - Top Canadian Expert in promoting innovation and best practices in the design, construction and renovation of housing.
14 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Shawna catches up with long-time friend and colleague, Oliver Drerup in this edition of This Must be The Place. He is one of the top experts in Canada...
Tex McLeod Returns - How Did We Get Here
07 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Guest Tex McLeod returns to kick off Season 3 of This Must Be The Place! We’re back with an exciting new format that continues to deliver industry i...
Season Three Trailer
28 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Season Three of This Must Be the Place kicks off with a bang. The season will be broken into three themes, with six episodes per theme, and the first ...
Donna Sink Architect, Indianapolis, Indiana
05 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks with architect, Donna Sink. Based in Indianapolis, Indiana Donna has worked on urban...
Monica Rokicki, founder and CEO of Better Building Works
28 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to Monica Rokicki, founder and CEO of Better Building Works. In addition to running ...
Robert Bean - Director of healthheating.com and founded Indoor Climate Consultants Inc.
21 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to distinguished lecturer and speaker Robert Bean. He is the director of healthheati...
Gaby Kalapos - Executive Director at Clean Air Partnership in Toronto
14 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to Gaby Kalapos— the Executive Director at Clean Air Partnership in Toronto. Her h...
Tex McLeod - Expert on Energy, Housing and Indoor Air Quality
07 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to Tex McLeod—one of North America’s leading presenters and trainers on energy, ...
Lloyd Alter - Design Editor for Treehugger
31 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to Lloyd Alter- author, teacher, and keynote speaker at conferences across North Ame...
Megan Bennett - Director of Program Operations, Summerhill
24 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to Megan Bennett-the Director of Program Operations at Summerhill—an organization ...
Emma Norton - Director of Government Relations at the Climate Emergency Unit
17 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to passionate climate advocate Emma Norton. She is the Director of Government Relati...
Betsy Agar - Senior Analyst in the Buildings and Urban Solutions Program at the Pembina Institute
10 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this week’s episode of This Must be The Place, Shawna speaks to Betsy Agar, Senior Analyst in the Buildings and Urban Solutions Program at the Pe...
Luke Dolan - The CEO of Capital Home Energy
03 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this edition of This Must be The Place, Shawna has a spirited conversation with Luke Dolan, the CEO of Capital Home Energy-an energy design firm in...
Sonja Wilkelmann - Senior Director of Net Zero Energy Housing at the Canadian Home Builders’ Association (CHBA)
24 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation of This Must be The Place, Shawna chats with the Senior Director of Net Zero Energy Housing at the Canadian Home Builders’ Asso...
Sean Kelly - Director of Energy Programs - Clean Foundation
17 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation of This Must be The Place, Shawna catches up with Sean Kelly, Director of Energy at the Clean Foundation in Dartmouth, Nova Scoti...
Dave Butterwick - Butterwick Construction and Carpentry Ltd. and Butterwick Projects Ltd.
10 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place Shawna talks to Dave Butterwick. He is the Managing Partner at Butterwick Construction and Carpentry Ltd. an...
Marie Hanchet - NetZero Energy Housing Project Manager at Canadian Home Builders' Association
03 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place Shawna exchanges deep insights on energy efficiency with self-proclaimed “math nerd at heart”, Marie Han...
Brad McLaughlin - MCL Construction Ltd.
27 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place Shawna exchanges net-zero knowledge and industry best practices with Brad McLaughlin. He is the General Mana...
Casey Grey - The Conscious Builder
20 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place Shawna connects with Casey Grey, founder of the award-winning sustainable building company, The Conscious Bu...
Bob Deeks - President of RDC Fine Homes
13 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
PLEASE NOTE: There were issues with the recording from the guests side. Please be patient with us. In this episode Shawna talks to guest Bob Dee...
Stephen Magneron - Energy advisor at HomeSol Building Solutions
06 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of This Must be The Place-Shawna talks to Stephen Magneron, an energy advisor at HomeSol Building Solutions. They waste no time in div...
Season Two is Coming Soon!
02 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Shawna Henderson is the founder and CEO of Blue House Energy. She provides training resources to companies, managers and employees in the residential ...
Doug Tarry - Doug Tarry Homes
04 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Shawna chats with the dynamic and knowledgeable Doug Tarry—an award-winning home-builder in Southern Ontario. He has built more net ...
Stephanie Coleman - Building Knowledge Canada
28 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Shawna is joined by Stefanie Coleman in this episode. She is the Marketing and Business Development Manager at Building Knowledge Canada. She is the 3...
Toby Smith - Building Knowledge Canada
21 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Toby Smith, Project Manager at Building Knowledge Canada joins Shawna in this episode. He brings a wealth of expertise in energy efficiency. He has co...
Lara Ryan: Lara Ryan Consulting
14 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Lara Ryan has spent over 30 years honing her leadership skills in environmental sustainability. She currently helps clients articulate and demonstrate...
Brendan Haley - Policy Director at Efficiency Canada
07 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Brendan Haley is a passionate advocate and a deeply knowledgeable policy expert on an energy efficient economy. He was the principal catalyst behind t...
Dale Rott - Effect Home Builders
30 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Today Shawna talks to award-winning (too many awards to list here) custom home-builder, Dale Rott. He has spent his career improving methods for bette...
Dr. Allison Bailes, III, Ph.D. - Energy Vanguard
23 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Shawna has a conversation with Dr. Allison Bailes III. His company, Energy Vanguard offers consulting, training, quality assurance, h...
Anna Gillcash - Founder and Owner of Revival Home Design
16 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Shawna is joined by Anna Gillcash. Since she was a little girl Anna has had an obsession with houses. It was rather inevitable as her ...
Amelie Caron - A Building Scientist at EcoSynergy
09 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Shawna talks to Amelie Caron—both powerhouse women— they dive into their backgrounds in what are trailblazing careers. They both s...
Peter Darlington - Founder and Owner of Solar Homes Inc.
02 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Peter Darlington Facebook: Solar Homes Inc.-Calgary’s Net-Zero Energy Homes Twitter: @SolarHomesInc In this episode Shawna catches up with Peter Dar...
Angela Bustamante, Director of Technical Services and Quality Assurance at Building Knowledge Canada
26 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Angela Bustamante Attention building science nerds! This episode is for you. Angela Bustamante is the Director of Technical Services and Quality...
Natalie Irwin, Director of Stakeholder Engagement at Efficiency Canada
19 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode Shawna breaks it down with Natalie Irwin, Director of Stakeholder Engagement at Efficiency Canada . The national voice for an en...
Paul Gagliardi - Managing Director at NRGwise
12 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Gagliardi In this episode Shawna catches up with Paul Gagliardi, the Managing Director at NRGwise, an energy assessment consulting company deeply...
Mark Carver - Project Lead for CanmetEnergy at Natural Resources Canada
05 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Carver Twitter at @CanmetENERGY_O LinkedIn at @CanmetENERGY Ottawa Attention building science nerds! This episode is for you. In this...
Diane Snelgrove, Enterprise Development Officer at the Saint John Community Loan Fund
29 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Diane Snelgrove In this episode of This Must Be The Place, Shawna speaks to Diane Snelgrove, Enterprise Development Officer at the Saint John Communit...
Cindy Gareau - Executive Director of CACEA (The Canadian Association of Consulting Energy Advisors)
22 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Cindy Gareau [email protected] Shawna’s guest in this episode is Cindy Gareau, the Executive Director of CACEA (The Canadian Association of Consultin...
Carla Harder - Program Coordinator at Blue House Energy
15 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Carla Harder [email protected] In today’s episode Shawna speaks to Carla Harder-a member of her Blue House Energy team. Carla is the Program...
Andy Cockburn - Director of Education and Training at NAIMA
08 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Andy Cockburn In this episode Shawna talks to industry expert Andy Cockburn. He is the Director of Education and Training at NAIMA ( the North America...
Trailer
26 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Coming soon. This Must Be the Place: The Science Building Podcast. Host/Producer - Shawna Henderson [email protected] Producer - Tanya ...