In this episode of This Must Be the Place, Shawna covers a lot of important ground with guest Kirk Johnson. He has worked passionately over the past two decades in reimagining a Canada powered by low-carbon, net-zero, sustainable energy. He has spent his career designing transformative sustainable energy programs and has taught as a professor at Humber College. Highlights from this episode: • Find out about what he refers to as “perverse incentives”. • For a long time he was the only person of colour in the room-why he says we need to “stand up for people that are not in the room”. • He explains why “reinvention of the wheel” is one of the biggest industry myths. Current Position: President, Eco-Efficiency Consulting For more background info: ohe.efficiencycanada.org/kirk Host/Producer - Shawna Henderson [email protected] Producer - Tanya Chedrawy [email protected] Technical Producer - Michael Boyd [email protected] Social Media – Anita Kirkbride www.twirp.ca A Production of: Blue House Energy bluehouseenergy.com/ Tanya Media tanyamedia.com Podcast Atlantic podcastatlantic.com/ Blue House Energy’s Website by R & G - The Sustainability Agency https://www.rgstrategic.com/ Music from Arches Audio - https://archesaudio.com/ Title of Song - "Road Trip"

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