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This Podcast Will Kill You

Ep 211 Motion Sickness: It comes in waves

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the symptoms and experiences of motion sickness?

1.516 - 26.747 Erin Allman-Uptyke

This is exactly right.

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26.828 - 35.038 Erin Welsh

I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts.

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35.439 - 50.878 Erin Allman-Uptyke

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Chapter 2: How does our physiology contribute to motion sickness?

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104.093 - 105.435 Christina Kupka-Decker

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Listen to Burden of Guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Christina Kupka-Decker, and for as long as I can remember, I have experienced motion sickness in cars, planes, boats, trains, and theme park rides.

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The first time I experienced severe motion sickness, however, was when I was 16 years old on a flight from Los Angeles to New York.

Chapter 3: What historical remedies have been used for motion sickness?

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As soon as the plane took off, I was hit with intense vertigo and nausea. Within about 15 minutes, I began vomiting, which quickly turned into dry heaving for the remainder of the six-hour flight. The plane suddenly felt smaller, breathing felt heavier, and my head was spinning so intensely that it felt like it might explode. I felt overheated, overwhelmed, and

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and my mouth was either extremely dry or excessively watery. I am now 37, and unfortunately, this has never changed. The difficult part is that I love to travel. So in many ways, traveling means accepting that I will likely suffer through the journey. Over the years, I have seen many specialists, including neurologists and ear, nose, and throat doctors.

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I have tried vestibular therapy, had CT scans, MRIs, and undergone hearing tests.

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Chapter 4: What modern treatments are available for motion sickness?

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Doctors ruled out Meniere's disease, which causes symptoms similar to what I experience. Despite all of these evaluations, no one has been able to explain why my motion sickness is so debilitating. Even when I am the one driving, I sometimes experience nausea and vertigo, especially on winding roads or in heavy traffic, which is nearly impossible to avoid while living in Los Angeles.

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One of the worst happened during a flight with very heavy turbulence. I was vomiting into a sickness bag only to realize too late that the bag was broken at the bottom. I had to sit there with vomit in my lap and around me for a large portion of the flight. Because the turbulence was so bad, the flight attendants couldn't get up to help me.

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When I finally reach my destination, I usually can't eat anything. I typically need to sleep off the motion sickness before I feel well enough to explore the city I traveled so far to see. The only treatment that has consistently helped me is a combination of Zofran, Meclizine, and a wrist device that uses electrical shock therapy, kind of similar to a TENS machine.

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Chapter 5: How does technology impact our experience of motion sickness?

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Even with this combination, I still experience severe motion sickness, but it significantly reduces my vomiting and makes travel somewhat more bearable.

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. Ooh, Christina, thank you for sharing your story, first of all. That sounds, I mean, that sounds unimaginably awful. It sounds awful. But I'm glad that there's finally something that you're finding some relief. Some modicum of relief. Yeah, yeah. But thank you again for sharing your story.

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Chapter 6: What role does sensory conflict play in motion sickness?

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We really appreciate it. We do. Thank you. Hi, I'm Erin Welsh. And I'm Erin Allman-Uptyke. And this is This Podcast Will Kill You. Welcome to motion sickness. Welcome. Welcome. This is one of the most universal experiences of humans, right?

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Chapter 7: Are there genetic factors related to susceptibility to motion sickness?

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I mean, yeah, I guess maybe. Or like the potential for universality is quite high. It exists. Just to, you know, be precise about it.

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I am really excited about this episode. And when you proposed it, and I think that you have many times. Maybe like three years ago was the first time I was like, we should do this. And I was like, absolutely not. And I am thrilled that I finally said yes to it because it's really, really interesting.

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Chapter 8: What can we learn from the evolution of motion sickness in humans and animals?

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That I finally bullied you into it. I was like, we're doing it. It's on the calendar. You can't say no. It's super, super interesting. Yeah. And I'm really excited about it. It is—I, like, what drove me always to be like, we should do this, it's not because I knew anything about it. It's not because I personally have experienced a lot of motion sickness. Do you get motion sick? No, not at all.

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Like, there was—John and I were— fishing off like in the ocean and it was a small boat and the waves were quite choppy and John quickly because his eyes were focused on the rod and not the horizon and the fish and John was within I don't know how much time scream barfing poor guy just like non-stop and I was and he was like you are completely fine I felt nothing.

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I mean, I felt bad for him, but physically, I felt nothing. So yeah, I am one of the ones who can read in a car, on a bus, on a train, whatever.

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470.533 - 470.793 Erin Welsh

Same.

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No problem. Same. I can remember one time feeling a little bit motion sick, and it was on day two of a 22-day research cruise in the Um, and yeah, day two, I was like a little like, Ooh, I don't think I'm going to eat today as much as usual. Yeah. And that was it. So I feel very lucky, um, that I haven't experienced a lot of it.

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Cause otherwise I'm like, I'll eat an entire funnel cake and then go on the tilt a whirl and be like, this was the best day ever. Yeah. So. Roller coasters. I remember as a kid, the one time I remember really feeling quite nauseous was like on a bus, on the school bus, reading a book because I had no friends. So I would just read books on the school bus. My little anamorphs. Yeah.

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And so I remember that, but then ever since then, which is interesting because I feel – anyway, we'll get there in terms of the age distribution.

526.327 - 527.388 Erin Welsh

There's so much to cover.

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There's so much. I'm really excited about it. Maybe we should start and stop just blathering. Maybe we should. Maybe we should. We have quarantini time. It's quarantini time. It's quarantini time. What are we drinking this week, Erin? We're drinking Motion Potion.

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