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MN To LOSE Congressional Seat Over Deportations, Attacks Against ICE Getting WORSE w/ Sulaiman Ahmed
17 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to the topic of ICE?
It doesn't matter what the claim from the left is because they're going to claim that the government
did everything wrong anyways. No, but if it was the other way around, you guys, if Leslie Biden was in charge, you guys would be like, oh, Biden basically is allowing the murder of Republicans. You could say you guys, but when Ashley Babbitt was killed, I wasn't one of the guys out there screaming about it.
And the second point is, when you look at what he did, he shoots, then allegedly the car hits him, and then he shoots maybe two or three times more. So the... Three times in total. Okay, so two times more. So it means, like, for example, his hit clearly wasn't bad enough that he still managed to shoot through the side mirror two more times.
Yeah, I want to know about that. If he's got to explain every bullet. I heard pop, pop, pop, pop is what I heard. He shot her once. She drove and started to drive away, and then he fired three more at her while she was driving away. Is that to protect so she didn't pull out a gun and turn around and shoot at him? Is that why he finished her off?
No, it was all within a second. Like, we're expecting superhuman level. Like, the entire argument is...
like look we're not expecting perfection like of course every time there's gonna be a police involved shooting it's not gonna be like this beautiful perfect incident like these things are messy the reality is when you accelerate towards a police officer you need to like understand that they do have the right to return fire because you're using your you're using your vehicle as a deadly weapon if a cop thinks you're coming at them and they shoot you and then you turn and run away and they shoot you three more times while you're running away is that murder it all depends on what the situation is if it was like five seconds gone by there could be
but again, we're talking about like in the space of a second, this is all going on.
To your exact point, if the police believe that you are going, so if you're running away with a gun, right?
They'll finish you off because they think you could turn around and shoot.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the recent ICE shooting?
So is someone driving a car away reasonable? Is there a reasonable fear it was going to be, oh, come on. I don't think that. That's why the police.
The context I'm talking about with Ian is different from the one that we're talking about.
Yeah, yeah. With the car. He didn't see a gun. Wait, hold on. Let me finish this. The cop didn't see a gun. He had no reason to think that a car driving away from him was going to cause immediate threat to anybody. So why did he fire those extra three shots? He already had decided he's going to kill her.
A car that's being pursued by the police, that's why they have pit maneuvers. Because, again, a car on the loose... you know, being pursued by police, that is going to be considered a threat against the public. And that's why the police have the authority to conduct pit maneuvers. So if you're going to say, well, he has zero right whatsoever. Again, this is also in the space of a second.
So this is a moot point anyway. But even in that instance, then you have to be against like pit maneuvers. I mean,
These are things that the police use to- No, no, pit maneuvers isn't shooting the driver in the head. That's different.
It's still like, there's still a threat of death.
It's a non-lethal way to get them.
Pit maneuver is absolutely lethal.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts perceive the use of force in law enforcement?
Well, that's what the police thought, didn't he? That's why he shot.
There was standoff distance. He didn't know that she was attacking him. Anyway, I don't want to sit there and pick apart the Ashley Babbitt thing. That's pointless.
I think I'm justified in not having a position because it happened like four years ago. And then we're comparing it to something that happened last week.
You have opinions on stuff that is much older than four years.
I know, but this is a specific shooting from four years. I was like a freshman in college. I don't know. I wasn't there. I'm sure if I was politically active, I'm sure if I was politically active at the time, I would have like a hot take on it.
So you can't have an opinion on it because you're young when that happened?
I mean, if he had legal justification. Do you have an opinion on the Holocaust? Yeah, I do. I have some very hot takes.
I'm just saying, you weren't alive there and you got some hot takes on there. So, I mean, it's just like, let's not act naive, Tay, because you want to try to, oh, you have to pretend to be Mac or else you're going to get in trouble. It's like, you can actually just say how you feel. You don't have to worry about getting canceled.
You can try to be. I legitimately don't. know anything about the Ashley Babbitt case.
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges of immigration policy in the U.S.?
Well, I mean, alone, 30 million illegals, that's easy. And then a lot of people that have fudged paperwork to get here, people that have immigrated here, but they're on welfare, people that are net negative.
What about people who've not been born here, but have got citizenship?
Again, we're looking at what a feasible immigration policy is, and yeah, they would stay if their paperwork's here and they're net contributors to the American tax base.
Just as long as you include Hassan Piker, I'm fine with it.
Whatever we need to do to get Hassan Piker out as well.
Let's touch a topic that is not controversial at all. Donald Trump not bombing Iran. Now, a lot of people expected it was going to happen on the 16th because I guess the first Ayatollah stepped down on January 16th, like 30 years ago, I guess. So this date is very important to these people.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Trump's decision regarding Iran?
And it looks like I'm seeing on the Israel firsters on Twitter getting mad that Trump hasn't done anything yet. So I guess, you know, we can just go around the room. I think that if we start a war with Iran, it's probably going to be a big clusterfuck and it's going to cause us a bunch of problems.
um so i'm obviously you know i'm a conflict interventionist i don't want to go and and fight these wars for other countries but you know i'd like to see maybe maga tate wants to freaking blow up the ayatollah no i do not want war with iran i think it would be a quagmire um again venezuela the the the goals were clear the again the outcomes were clear even before the the operation happened actually surrendered have you heard that conspiracy is that that maduro had surrendered and was going to turn himself in well
I mean, probably because he knew that like, you know, we were capable of and he looked around and he saw that like the people guarding him were like fat, like retards. Probably the best decision possible is to give himself up.
Saddam had given himself up, too. But they were like, we don't want you. We want the country.
Yeah, I'm just I'm just very allergic to intervention in the Middle East. What about bombing? What about if he bombed? I don't even I just don't want to get involved in Iran. I don't want to get involved in Iran. It's just a mess. Again, the interest.
You want to bomb Iran? I didn't say I want to. I said I'm fine. There's a difference between there's I'm not pro intervention in Iran, but if if if they did, I wouldn't lose any sleep.
I get frustrated. It takes too young for this. But there's a thing called the PNAC project for a new American century where they actually wrote a whole doctrine about how they're going to take the seven biggest threats to Israel and the Middle East. And Iran is the last country on that list. And we went there and we destabilized all these countries. We basically went to Afghanistan.
And not only do you say Donald Trump is killing all these people because they have drugs. But in Afghanistan, we actually protected the poppy fields so that we didn't mess up their economy of selling heroin. So obviously that's a lie. Obviously the government does want to sell drugs. I think the Iran-Contra, the government got caught shipping in cocaine, trading them in Nicaragua.
But it wasn't about cocaine.
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Chapter 7: How do war and intervention affect U.S. foreign policy?
I don't know.
I think we got on your question, you said you're fine with bombing Iran. So are you fine with Iran bombing US military sites in the GCC countries?
Why would I be fine with that? That's a ridiculous.
So why are you fine with the first?
I'm an American.
Yeah.
And I like America.
So I'm on America. I'm on America.
I'm OK. You can stop putting words in my mouth. I'm on America's side. How is that on America's side to bomb? Because if the I said if the United States does it, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Because the government does a lot of things that I wouldn't be out there saying we should go do this. There are a lot of things that don't have significant impact on my life.
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Chapter 8: What role does America play in global geopolitics?
Yeah, I think the problem with being neutral on the issue is that what is the consequences? So there's only a couple of possibilities. One possibility is you're okay with America bombing another country, which I'm just like a Muslim and I think ethically just harming anyone is not a good thing. But okay, I know we've got different morals and ethics.
But that being said, separate to that, there's always consequences for your action. So when you bomb Iran, inevitably there's going to be a reaction. Hence why Israel, who knows that if they bomb Iran and the GCC countries, pleaded with Trump to say, look, don't do it. And that's the reason he didn't do it, because they knew that they would be targets. The US military bases would be targets.
Israel would be target. And the issue you've got is that basically what it does is cause escalation. Iran isn't a weak country like Venezuela.
I'm not so sure that it actually would have significant consequences. And the reason I say that is because there was everybody, so many people were saying, look, if we strike Iran, if we strike the nuclear sites in Iran, there's going to be all these consequences. There's going to be a ground invasion. There's going to be this, there's going to be that.
And so far, we've not seen any of the consequences that people were predicting. I'm not saying that there couldn't be things in the future. I'm saying up to this point, we have not seen any of the stuff that the doomsayers were saying.
No, no, because that's because it seems like that was kind of like an agreed upon situation where America... But before they were saying that all this stuff is definitely going to happen. Yeah, because it was agreed upon because what actually happened in that war was, which has kind of been proven now based on the fact that Israel said it already is, it was a 12-day war. Iran dominated Israel.
The very first day, Israel hit Iran really well. Iran didn't expect it because they manipulated. Trump told Iran, Israel is not going to hit you. So he believed him and thought there's going to be negotiations on Sunday. On the Friday, they hit. Iran was doing military exercises. So on the first day, they succeeded within Iran. And after that, Iran dominated Israel.
Israel didn't have no defense missiles. And this is the reason they don't want to do that. They haven't got enough defense missiles to stop their attacks. And so that's why they went to Trump and made sure that they stopped the war.
Trump's way of stopping the war was he had an agreed thing with Iran, in my view, this is our last speculation, agreed in thing with Iran to say, look, you take your whatever nuclear bits you've got in Iran, we're going to bomb, and then you can do the thing in Qatar. And they both bombed each other, and that's the end of it. But now Israel is not ready for basically the war.
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