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Art of the (Iran) deal

15 Apr 2025

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Iran allegedly plotted to assassinate President Donald Trump late last year. But that’s not stopping the Trump administration from trying to strike a nuclear deal with Iran. This episode was produced by Gabrielle Berbey and Travis Larchuk, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Further reading: Revenge by Alex Isenstadt. Newspaper front pages at a kiosk in Tehran as talks with the US begin. Photo by ATTA KENARE/AFP via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1.481 - 20.117 Noel King

Representatives from the U.S. and Iran sat down last weekend to try to strike a deal on Iran's nuclear program. These were the highest level talks between the two countries since 2018. And the big surprise is that they're going to meet again this coming Saturday. President Trump in the Oval Office yesterday was asked about Iran, and he said this.

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20.137 - 25.562 Donald Trump

Iran has to get rid of the concept of a nuclear weapon. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. He can't have a nuclear weapon.

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25.862 - 26.683 Noel King

Then he said this.

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26.703 - 28.805 Donald Trump

I want them to be a rich, great nation.

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29.205 - 32.368 Noel King

Circling back, he said this. They're not going to have one.

33.567 - 35.948 Donald Trump

And if we have to do something very harsh, we'll do it.

36.749 - 55.918 Noel King

Maybe it's the weave, but President Trump seems to have profoundly mixed feelings about Iran. He believes that Iran tried to kill him last fall and the Department of Justice agreed and filed charges. But Trump is also reaching out to Iran in some ways that have Iran watchers thinking he might be very serious about making a deal. That's coming up on Today Explained.

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