Baby’s first gene edit

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What is the story of baby KJ?

Sean Rameswaram 0:00
It's a big week for baby KJ. After spending nearly his entire first year of life in the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, he is going home. Baby KJ is not like your average baby. He was diagnosed with a rare genetic disease shortly after birth, something that roughly one in a million babies have. But baby KJ got a genetic treatment for it that no baby has ever had. And it worked.
Unknown Speaker 0:31
He's had quite a nice little growth spurt. I like to think it's really helped him grow some nice chubby cheeks.
Kyle Muldoon 0:39
Man, the day he walks into like school with a book bag on and we like let him go at the door, like, I might have to take the day off that day.
Sean Rameswaram 0:48
The miracle of baby KJ coming up on Today Explained.
Francoise Baylis 0:52
KJ, buddy, what you doing down there? What are you doing? KJ!
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Sean Rameswaram 2:10
This is Today Explained. Jason Mast writes about science, medicine, and biotech over at Stat News. Lately, he's been writing about baby KJ. Who is adorable. We asked him to tell us about the baby.
Jason Mast 2:26
So baby KJ was born last summer. He was the Muldoon's fourth child.
Kyle Muldoon 2:33
Five weeks before KJ was supposed to be born, Nicole called me and said, we got to go to the hospital, like now. I don't know, six hours later, KJ was here.

What rare condition does baby KJ have?

Jason Mast 2:41
They're told that he's quite healthy and we're going to put him in the NICU for now, but, you know, he'll be back with you very soon. And then basically within 48 hours, a nurse pulls Kyle aside, the father, and pulls up KJ's arm and drops it down. And instead of flopping, as you would expect a baby's arm or anyone's arm, really, it's to do, it kind of shutters down. And what they find is that his ammonia levels are in the thousands, when it should be, you know, like 10 or 20. And this is very dangerous.
Unknown Speaker 3:13
This toxin, ammonia, builds up in your blood and then eventually will build up in your brain. If that went on unchecked for a day to two days, the patient would be at very high risk of death.
Kyle Muldoon 3:25
One of the doctors came to us and said, we think we know what's wrong. Your son is very sick. But the best place in the world for your child to be when he's very sick is next door.
Jason Mast 3:35
So they rushed KJ across the street, basically, to the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia from UPenn Hospital. And they immediately put him on medicines to bring down that ammonia, put him on a strict diet. And they sequenced his genome. And they say, okay, what exactly is the issue here? And they find that he has a mutation in this one gene. But what they realize is that this is actually a mutation that might be editable, that we might be able to make a gene editing treatment for.
Kyle Muldoon 4:03
We either have to get a liver transplant or give him this medicine that's never been given to anybody before, right? I mean, what an impossible decision to make. I just think that we felt like this was the best possible scenario for a life that... At one point, we didn't know if he would be able to have.
Jason Mast 4:24
For the last couple years, they had been basically preparing for a baby like KJ. Because there had been all these advancements in gene editing over the last decade. Many of your listeners probably have heard vaguely of CRISPR. There's one drug already approved for sickle cell. There's more in the works.

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