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How Abercrombie made a comeback
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Fast Company’s senior fashion writer Elizabeth Segran explains how the company overcame a problematic history to pull off a renaissance in this rebroadcast of our episode from July. This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Matt Collette, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Abercrombie & Fitch models in 2005. Photo by David Pomponio/FilmMagic for Paul Wilmot Communications. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was Abercrombie & Fitch's cultural significance in the late 90s?
Summer of 1999. Britney had her first hit. TLC had their millionth. American Pie was in theaters. Carson Daly was on TRL. And the cool kids wore Abercrombie and Fitch. Abercrombie didn't invent the American teenager. Hollywood did that.
You're tearing me apart!
But for a time, it defined what it meant to dress and act like a teenager.
Look at him. It's like Abercrombie's making people now.
But then the brand cratered, done in by the cheap shots it took at women, Asians, West Virginia, and male gymnasts, among others, and a CEO who was recently charged with running a sex trafficking ring. But quietly, Abercrombie has been mounting an incredible comeback. You might even find yourself in one this Black Friday, and you will not be alone. Coming up on Today Explained.
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Very Abercrombie and Fitch? I'm Noelle King with Elizabeth Segrin. She's a senior staff writer at Fast Company. She writes about the fashion industry. And Elizabeth's early memories of Abercrombie?
Okay, so I did not grow up in this country because my dad worked for an airline. I spent most of my childhood in Europe and Asia. And so my first experience even hearing about Abercrombie & Fitch came in 1999 when I was a junior in high school. It was called Summer Girls by LFO. It was such an iconic song.
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Chapter 2: What led to Abercrombie's decline?
My, you know, favorite, you know, example of how racist they were was that in 2002, they released this t-shirt that featured two Chinese men on it with very offensively slanted eyes. And it was designed to look like a shirt from like a laundromat. And the slogan on it was, Two Wongs can make it white.
I just want to know, like, what was the process of making like who was in the room when they made this? Like, did they just did they just think like, oh, OK, this is kind of a funny pun. Like, let's just go with it. Right. Or was there anybody there who was like rolling their eyes? I don't think so.
I think that they had hired, you know, a team of executives that didn't have the ability to understand exactly how egregious that was. And, you know, in 2003, the brand faced a class action lawsuit where all of these plaintiffs argued that Abercrombie did not hire black, Asian, and Latino people in stores. So I was totally onto that.
Hold up, shorties. Each photo costs $10. And the proceeds go to charity.
Oh, what charity is that? It's to pay for the $40 million lawsuit against us. Yeah. A bunch of minorities sued Abercrombie because they only hire foxy white guys.
Like us. If they were hired, they were forced to work in back rooms where they wouldn't be seen by customers. You know, all the way until 2013, there was a woman who took Abercrombie to court saying that the brand didn't hire her because she wore a hijab. Abercrombie told her they had a, quote, look policy. No headscarves allowed. Her lawyer reading a statement on her behalf.
Observance of my faith should not prevent me from getting a job. And that case went all the way to the Supreme Court and Abercrombie lost. Justice Scalia has our opinion this morning in Case 1486, EEOC v. Abercrombie & Fitch. This is really easy. And so I think the brand was just so overtly, nakedly offensive that the brand slowly offended people into irrelevance.
This is, I mean, this is a preppy clothing brand that literally lost a Supreme Court case against it. How bad? Was that the low point? How bad did it get for Abercrombie?
Yeah, I mean, I think that was the low point. This coincided with financial problems. So starting in about 2008 during the Great Recession, Abercrombie's revenues began to go into a tailspin. But that was actually true of many retailers at the time. The Great Recession was terrible for fashion brands. But what was different about Abercrombie is that it never bounced back.
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Chapter 6: What changes did Abercrombie make during its comeback?
Summer of 1999. Britney had her first hit. TLC had their millionth. American Pie was in theaters. Carson Daly was on TRL. And the cool kids wore Abercrombie and Fitch. Abercrombie didn't invent the American teenager. Hollywood did that.
You're tearing me apart!
But for a time, it defined what it meant to dress and act like a teenager.
Look at him. It's like Abercrombie's making people now.
But then the brand cratered, done in by the cheap shots it took at women, Asians, West Virginia, and male gymnasts, among others, and a CEO who was recently charged with running a sex trafficking ring. But quietly, Abercrombie has been mounting an incredible comeback. You might even find yourself in one this Black Friday, and you will not be alone. Coming up on Today Explained.
That's public.com slash podcast. Paid for by Public Investing. All investing involves risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for U.S. listed registered securities, options, and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing Incorporated, member FINRA and SIPC. Complete disclosures available at public.com slash disclosures.
Yes, hi, I'd like to order a pizza. Okay, can I ask you a question? Is the cute blonde guy delivering tonight?
Very Abercrombie and Fitch? I'm Noelle King with Elizabeth Segrin. She's a senior staff writer at Fast Company. She writes about the fashion industry. And Elizabeth's early memories of Abercrombie?
Okay, so I did not grow up in this country because my dad worked for an airline. I spent most of my childhood in Europe and Asia. And so my first experience even hearing about Abercrombie & Fitch came in 1999 when I was a junior in high school. It was called Summer Girls by LFO. It was such an iconic song.
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