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The book of Mormon influence

22 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 22.63 Jonquilyn Hill

Once upon a dismal day, Bob's ice cream van looked gloomy and gray. Although he had big ambitions, his socials lacked creative vision. Ugh, that bad? Maybe vamp it up a tad? I have an idea. Bob launched Canva and got into gear. Create a video in the vampire theme and make it the funniest I mean. It went viral. Bob's business, a revival.

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24.145 - 29.878 Jonquilyn Hill

Imagine what your dreams can become when you put imagination to work at Canva.com.

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31.723 - 42.728 SPEAKER_00

Why are there so many Mormon influencers? Mom talk blew up overnight. I gained like 60,000 followers in a week. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, this is crazy.

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45.577 - 60.632 Jonquilyn Hill

One of the biggest stories in pop culture this week is that Taylor Frankie Paul is out as The Bachelorette. If you don't know who that is, here's the quick and dirty. She got the gig as lead in ABC's dating show after starring in a Hulu reality series.

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60.612 - 65.677 SPEAKER_00

I created MomTalk. It's a group of Mormon moms making TikToks.

66.037 - 88.56 Jonquilyn Hill

The upcoming season of The Bachelorette was canceled after she got into a fight with the father of her youngest child. The police were called and an old video of her putting him in a headlock surfaced. Now, this may sound like typical reality TV fodder, but given the fact that Taylor Frankie Paul is Mormon, headlining The Bachelorette was big news in and of itself.

90.329 - 100.665 Jonquilyn Hill

But there are actually a ton of Mormons in the pop culture spotlight these days. Just turn on your TV. Dancing with the stars, getting a double dose of Mormon wives.

100.886 - 105.293 Diane Winston

A quick lesson on how to be a good Mormon. Don't drink, don't swear, treat your body like a temple.

105.533 - 108.037 Jonquilyn Hill

Or check out some of the latest lifestyle trends.

Chapter 2: Why are there so many Mormon influencers in pop culture?

114.928 - 117.973 Bridget Reid

Have you heard about dirty bread?

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117.953 - 118.554 Jonquilyn Hill

Soda.

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118.834 - 122.578 SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm excited. Cheers. Let's try dirty sodas.

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124.1 - 142.881 Jonquilyn Hill

It's very interesting. And there's a pretty good likelihood you'll run across a woman affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I'm Jonqulyn Hill. And this week on Explain It to Me from Vox, what's behind the Mormon momentum and what happens when pop culture and religion collide?

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146.422 - 155.454 Bridget Reid

I'm Bridget Reid. I'm a futures writer at New York Magazine. I cover all kinds of oddities and phenomena.

155.955 - 169.594 Jonquilyn Hill

Okay, so in your latest piece, you write about the rise of Mormon influencers and TV stars, and you talk about a woman who really helped pioneer influencing as we kind of know it today. Who is she?

Chapter 3: Who is Taylor Frankie Paul and why is she significant?

170.198 - 177.819 Bridget Reid

Yeah, that woman is named Rachel Parcell, and she had a blog in the mid-2010s called Pink Peonies.

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177.879 - 182.672 SPEAKER_00

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182.72 - 207.023 Bridget Reid

She was one of the first true influencers on the internet where instead of just having a blog, sharing her life, she was actually linking to the products she was buying, the clothes, how she was decorating her home, what she was buying her kids, and then linking that stuff, actually making money off the links and having followers kind of mimic her lifestyle.

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207.003 - 215.308 SPEAKER_00

And there you have it, a fun idea to coordinate with your little girl or your little boy. You can shop everything in the carousel below. Isla, can you say bye?

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216.318 - 241.667 Bridget Reid

Explaining that now feels almost silly because it's endemic to how people live and make money online. But this was long before that was actually an income. And, you know, Rachel was a stay-at-home mom. She's practicing Mormon in Utah. And it really became a job for her because it was something she could do while being at home when she eventually had children. So she's kind of a...

241.647 - 250.003 Bridget Reid

a pioneer as the Mormons were in the state of Utah of the influencing industry as we know it.

252.937 - 260.589 Jonquilyn Hill

Yeah, it's interesting that Mormon women have been pioneering these trends and kind of the way social media works.

260.609 - 283.808 Bridget Reid

Why are they so good at doing that? Mormonism as a religion, first of all, is quite a gendered religion in that women really do have a very specific role, which is as caretakers in the home. You could think of it as a quite traditional role. sort of domestic division, right, where women take care of the kids, take care of the home, and that's really what they're supposed to be striving for.

283.828 - 289.238 Jonquilyn Hill

We go to church every Sunday with our girls, and we really do plan to kind of just carry on.

Chapter 4: How did Rachel Parcell revolutionize influencer marketing?

869.595 - 894.543 McKay Coppins

And many of the kind of ideas in Mormon theology are also drawn from the sacred American texts, right? Mormons actually are taught that the founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution are divinely inspired, that America is a special place that God has set apart.

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895.103 - 911.824 McKay Coppins

And, you know, there are kind of deeper ideas in the theology, like agency, free will, that you can, without too much effort, kind of connect to foundational American ideas like pluralism and democracy.

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911.939 - 919.839 Unknown

Life, liberty, property. Mankind's Three great rites.

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920.981 - 942.705 McKay Coppins

It was around the 20th century that Latter-day Saints started to think more deliberately about how they could be kind of initiated into American life. And certainly by the middle of the 20th century, the church was making a pretty concerted effort to be accepted as part of mainstream American society.

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945.605 - 954.687 Jonquilyn Hill

This is the story of a way of life and of a people. A people very much like your next door neighbors. A people who number in the media.

955.409 - 978.582 McKay Coppins

We'd like you to meet the Mormons. You saw Latter-day Saints joining the military and intelligence agencies in very large numbers. That's partly because a lot of them speak foreign languages from their mission service and because they live relatively clean lives. That makes them attractive recruits to places like the CIA and FBI.

978.562 - 1003.745 McKay Coppins

But you also saw a lot of the church's messaging, its advertising, trying to portray it as kind of an all-American church, right? Mormons had big families. They were traditionally arranged where You know, the men worked, the women stayed at home, they had lots of kids. They were very active in civic organizations like the Boy Scouts of America.

1003.785 - 1027.992 McKay Coppins

And, you know, I don't want to say that this was all PR. I think a lot of it was genuinely rooted in the things that they believed were important about American civic life and family life and religious life. But also, there was a distinct desire to prove to America that they were kind of worthy of being considered American.

1029.033 - 1049.457 McKay Coppins

But you know, part of this was, a big part of this wasn't that the very end of the 19th century, the church disavowed polygamy, discontinued the practice. And that was kind of the beginning of the mainstreaming of Mormonism. Utah became an official state. And from that point on,

Chapter 5: What unique challenges do Mormon women face in social media?

1422.066 - 1424.911 Diane Winston

The most exciting example is probably The Chosen.

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1425.853 - 1437.615 Jonquilyn Hill

God loves the world in this way. that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

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1437.798 - 1460.425 Diane Winston

The Chosen is a show about Jesus and it's sort of how he lived his life. It's not supernatural. It's not flashy. It's just showing life in Palestine circa 0 to 33 Common Era. And Jesus' people is just like his posse. So it's very down to earth.

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1460.885 - 1466.472 Unknown

Do you want to be healed? Get up. Pick up your mat.

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1467.903 - 1497.538 Diane Winston

Now, when Dallas Jenkins first had this idea, there was no way he could fund it, so he decided to crowdsource it. He's raised nearly $100 million for production. And this covered the initial seasons, but lately he has studios willing to back him because the show has been such a hit. So obviously, big corporations are seeing there's money in religion and more shows like...

1497.518 - 1503.734 Diane Winston

The Chosen, Women of the Bible, House of David. You know, there's a lot in the Bible you can make stories about.

1506.661 - 1514.16 Jonquilyn Hill

What about shows that borrow from religious themes without actually being about religion? Are we seeing a lot of that as well?

1514.208 - 1539.522 Diane Winston

Yeah, because representations of religion are hard to do. Even though I said they're more in terms of niche audiences, a lot of times you don't want to go too heavily into a religious character unless they're a biblical character because it could just turn people off. But it's easier to take the themes that tie religions together. Religions care about good versus evil.

1539.562 - 1568.479 Diane Winston

They care about redemption. They care about sacrifice. They care about developing personal ethics. And so we are seeing a lot of shows like that now. Think about The Pit. If you watch The Pit, Dr. Robbie is sort of, he's Jewish in the show, but he's almost Jesus-like because he's long-suffering, he feels everybody's pain, he wants to do good for everybody.

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