An air of musky manliness settled over the 2024 presidential campaign and brought the bros to the polls. But a second Trump term has some women swearing off men — forever. This episode was produced by Victoria Chamberlin, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members President-elect Donald Trump at a UFC fight in Las Vegas. Photo by Jeff Bottari/Zuffa LLC via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was the significance of Trump's victory speech?
Did you see Trump's victory speech? I'll never be doing a rally again. Can you believe it? It was a big moment for the bros. The 2024 Trump campaign was run by a woman.
Chapter 2: Who is the Ice Babe?
The Ice Babe. We call her the Ice Babe.
But it was targeted at bros. Older bros, younger bros, business bros, all the bros. And on election night, Trump's new vice bro, JD Vance, got to speak.
And I think that we just witnessed the greatest political comeback in the history of the United States of America.
So did campaign bro Chris Lasavita. And he's a hell of a candidate. He's going to be a hell of a great 47th president. And a mega bro and UFC CEO Dana White.
He's a tough guy. Who went on to shout out the all-time reigning champion of the bros.
The mighty and powerful Joe Rogan.
The bro-Brogan experience coming up on Today Explained.
Thank you.
Megan Rapinoe here. This week on A Touch More, we are live from New York for the Liberty's home opener with an extra special guest, Brianna Stewart. We talk about the Liberty's newest additions, the best lessons Stewie ever got from Sue, and what it was like to be at the Met Gala this year. And of course, we couldn't let her go without asking her about that 2024 foul call.
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Chapter 3: What does the bro vote mean in this election?
My theory is that this was like the bro election and the bros voted and won.
Which bros? There's all sorts of bros. I might be a bro. Which bros?
I mean, yeah, you're bro-adjacent. I'm specifically talking about like young men, I would say like 18 to mid-30s maybe. Bruh. Bruh.
Chapter 4: Why did young men favor Trump in the election?
But yeah, when we talk about the bro vote, what we're talking about is like the coalition of kind of Gen Z male voters who have been leaning to the right in ways that kind of deviate from what we would think of as, you know, the kind of straightforwardly liberal youth vote. Right.
Right, because when I was in college, I remember everyone around me seemed super liberal, but something else is going on here.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's so many different, like, reasons for it. I mean, part of the reason, yeah, like, in the 2000s, like, being, like, to the left was, like, what the cool kids did.
The truth is, when we get Bush to step down, it's gonna be the biggest party that this world has ever seen.
You know, it was, like, anti-Bush and, like, anti-Iraq war.
Bush must go! Drive out! The Bush regime's there!
So right now, all we have are exit polls. We won't know, like, for sure things for another couple weeks. But it is showing that, you know, 18 to 29-year-old men are, like, favored Trump 49%. And 18 to 29-year-old women favored Harris by 24 points. So that's, like, a huge gap between what young men are voting for and what young women are voting for. And...
I think what we're seeing is a lot of young men reacting to, you know, the enormous strides that women have made in the last 50 years. You know, like more women out earn men, more women are getting college degrees. You know, these men sometimes feel very left behind. That's what they say. They feel, you know, Me Too was an overreach.
The reality is that women want men to act like men. That involves a certain amount of aggressive activity.
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Chapter 5: How did the Trump campaign target young male voters?
The man of the house, the man of the house, should provide for the house. I'm not going to have a girl pay half my rent.
They want to feel like they are in control of their lives, and I think the Trump campaign really spoke to those grievances.
Chapter 6: What strategies did Trump use to reach non-political audiences?
And we talked about this a bit on the show a few months ago.
Trump is trying to go deeper, not wider. And what I mean by that is he's trying to find more people who are simpatico already to him or his worldview, who might not vote at all, but would never vote for a Democrat.
The Trump campaign in choosing J.D. Vance, certainly, but even in the types of media they were doing, were speaking to these grievances, right?
The Trump campaign really kind of threw out the playbook that a typical presidential campaign would do, which is like, you know, do every like cable news interview and do interviews with newspapers and things. He went straight to where people are paying attention. He did interviews that weren't even political at all.
You know, like we have influencers who are just really popular with young men often because, you know, they cover gaming or sports or whatever. And those people interviewed him in this way that can reach the sort of like the nonpolitical bro vote.
I saw clips of a number of these interviews where, like, someone gave him, like, a MAGA Cybertruck. He was talking to Theo Vaughn about cocaine. He was rambling about nonsense with Joe Rogan. What is happening with the whales? I've read about this.
Well, they say that the wind drives them crazy. You know, it's a vibration because you have those, you know, those things that 50-story buildings simplify.
Right, and they're super sensitive to vibrations and sounds.
You know, the wind is rushing, the things are blowing, it's a vibration, and it makes noise. You know what it is? I want to be a whale psychiatrist. It drives the whales freaking crazy.
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Chapter 7: Will this influencer strategy work in future elections?
Well, maybe there was life there at one point in time, but we've had no evidence of even bacterial life that exists on Mars.
Do we think this is going to continue to work in future elections, or was this like a 2024 thing?
I mean, I think in the future, like candidates will have to go straight to the source. And by that, I mean, like professional influencers rather than going to mainstream media, because, you know. influencers now wield so much attention. There are so many of them. And so many of us are getting our news in these very kind of nichified spaces.
Chapter 8: What does the future hold for political campaigning?
Like not everybody is pulling up a copy of the New York Times in the morning. We all have our subsects that we read, our influencers that we watch, our algorithms are all personalized to us. And so in order to reach a lot of people, you have to kind of go to all these different places where people are getting their news. And that landscape has shifted so much since 2016.
And I think any politician that wants to reach a large number of people should learn from that.
You know, when we opened the show, we were talking about Trump's acceptance speech when he won the election Tuesday night. A whole lot of dudes spoke. He asked his, you know, chief political strategist, a woman, to speak, and she refused.
Tuesday likes to stay in the background. She's not in the background.
And then, you know, the campaign was just so masculine. It was just a lot of dude energy. It was misogynistic. He never even pronounced his opponent's name correctly. What does this shift towards just appealing to men say for women right now?
Yeah, I think I think the kind of gender war thing that we're seeing in this election and also increasingly online is just it says so much about where we're at right now. And and the fact that so many women voted for Trump, too, should also say a lot because I report on Internet culture. And what I've seen from content targeting young women is a similar shift to the right.
And it looks very different from these kind of bro influencers that we were talking about. But it kind of leads you to the same place where, you know, you have these trad wife influencers who are just making, you know, domesticity look very beautiful and ideal.
For Daniel and I, our priority in life is God and family. Everything else comes second.
We just landed after a 10-hour flight, and the first thing my husband requests is a hot dog. So instead of running to the store, I just decided to make it myself.
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