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Today, Explained

Trump vs. DC

26 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of Trump's changes to Washington, D.C.?

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Today, I explain Sean Ramos' room, and I live in Washington, D.C., so I care that congressional Republicans block D.C. from spending a billion dollars of its own money. I care that the same Republicans are trying to get rid of all of D.C. 's traffic cameras and no-turn-on red signs.

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And I care that, for some reason, the federal government is trying to remove a bike lane that serves tens of thousands of D.C. residents and tourists. And I care about the Kennedy Center. But I don't expect you to necessarily care about DC, right?

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Because it's just like some city most of you don't live in and you didn't sign up to live in a place that doesn't have its own congressional representation. That's what I did. But it's your city too. It's the nation's capital. It's one of the top tourist destinations in the country.

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And a lot of intention went into designing it and building it and making it accommodating to not only its residents, but people around the country and the world. And now Donald Trump wants to change it like he wants to change so many things quickly. brazenly, secretly, namely, and we're going to get into it on Today Explained. Washington, D.C. has become a dirty, crime-ridden death trap.

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Jonathan L. Fisher is a senior editor at The Atlantic where he's been writing about the Kennedy Center. We're going to start with the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts. That's what it's still called on Wikipedia.

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Kennedy Center is the national art center in Washington that sits on the banks of the Potomac. It opened in the early 70s, but it's an idea from the Eisenhower era to have a national art center to sort of fulfill the... The democratic role of culture.

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The idea was born that in Washington there should be a center of culture.

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To provide a setting for the best performers in the world, to bring together Washingtonians of all political stripes.

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It would be sort of a artistic mecca, indeed, that would be open to visitors from every land.

Chapter 2: How does the Kennedy Center fit into Trump's vision for D.C.?

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You know, now the Kennedy Center is always a rental venue. Its theaters are always available for a performer who just wants to book it. But the sort of character of the Kennedy Center programming, as well as these rentals, it does appear to be changing. You know, there's a handful of, like, explicitly Christian events that occur. That feels pretty unusual. You know, CPAC...

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There's a number of events booked by foreign governments or involving foreign governments, which is also unusual. You know, the week that MBS from Saudi Arabia visits the White House, they have a Saudi investment conference at the Kennedy Center.

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And it's great to be here today at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum. Great group of people. The biggest. You got the biggest in the room.

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You know, I think most significantly, FIFA hosts the World Cup draw at the Kennedy Center. It was originally set to be in Vegas, and Trump reportedly insisted on having it at the Kennedy Center. And that's where he gets the FIFA Peace Prize. Indeed. Wow.

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Well, thank you very much. This is truly one of the great honors of my life. Before the war, he started.

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Yeah. So, yeah, these are all different. And then you also have a Kennedy Center honors that he himself has had a role in picking the honorees for. Which is different than what usually happens. Yes. I mean, yes. There has never been a time where the president of the United States has picked who is appearing at the Kennedy Center Honors. That's true. Who does he pick?

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He picks Sylvester Stallone.

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who is a friend of his, also, you know, well-known as someone whose views are generally on the right. He picks George Strait. You know, the well-known country singer, you know, whose politics are more circumspect, but you can sort of see the connection. Kiss, who are, I guess, like the president, a very loud product of the 1970s.

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He also picks Michael Crawford, the Broadway singer and performer who originated the role of the Phantom of the Opera in the 1980s.

Chapter 3: What actions did Trump take regarding the Kennedy Center's board?

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So I think if you talk to people who work there, no one disputes that there are issues. I think what is at dispute is whether you need to shut down the entire thing to do it right. And that's what Trump says. To do it right, you have to shut it down. I think the view of people who work there is that You don't need to do that. You could shut down one. It has three main large performance spaces.

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You could shut down one, work in that, then shut down another and move on. You could do it gradually over several years. But to shut down the whole thing, especially with no notice, because that creates a big problem logistically for the orchestra, as well as Broadway tours and so on. So to do it without no notice, I think people who work there feel that there must be some other motivation.

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Like what? One version of the story is that the revenue is so bad, the incessant negative headlines are so pervasive that they just want to shut all that down and just focus on the building. Another theory is that... I think Trump has probably gotten close to saying this. He wants it to reopen within his term. So maybe if you do a slower renovation, you can't do that.

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If you shut down the whole thing, you can do it in two years. Of course, then there's the most apocalyptic theory, which is that he's going to knock down the whole thing for some reason. I'm a little skeptical of that one. I mean, now, granted, he's knocked some things down with no notice, but I'm a little skeptical of that one just because— Including his own house! Yes, yes.

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He posted some renderings. They look pretty similar to the building as it stands today. You know, as far as I know, the funding is funding that was appropriated for a renovation by Congress last year. It's more than $200 million, which is not enough money to build a new Kennedy Center. They probably do plan to just do a renovation.

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Even already, just by painting the columns, they sort of have already changed the visual effect of the Kennedy Center. They used to be this bronze color. Now they're white. So I think he has already applied his taste to the Kennedy Center, and therefore he has made this change to the lovely cityscape of federal Washington, of the monumental core.

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You can read Jonathan L. Fisher at TheAtlantic.com. The president wants to do a lot more to the monumental core of the nation's capital. He's coming in like a wrecking ball when Today Explained continues. Support for Today Explained comes from Upwork. Upwork says Upwork makes it easier to hire specialized freelancers fast so you get the expertise you need now without weeks of recruiting.

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Chapter 4: What impact did Trump's takeover have on artists and performances?

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That sounds like hyperbole, maybe. But, you know, in fact, he really is turning out to be an amazingly influential force in terms of the design of the city. War of 1812, the British come through and they burn the White House and they burn the Capitol and they have to be rebuilt. Donald Trump has torn down the east wing of the White House and he's making major changes, major additions.

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He's taken out the Rose Garden at the White House. He wants to build a new giant memorial, sort of triumphal arch at Arlington Cemetery. He's talking about a garden of national heroes that would really change the kind of sylvan landscape along the Potomac River. It goes on and on. And more important even than those changes is the fact that he wants to change how Washington manages change.

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He really wants to kind of force this through by personal fiat. rather than go through a longstanding process of design review, which has been absolutely essential to keeping Washington the city that we know today. And I think essential to the argument you're making here is that D.C. isn't New York. It isn't a city that was slowly built over time, that progressed and evolved with the times.

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The intention behind Washington, D.C. sets it apart. Yes, you know, it begins as a planned city. Very few American cities begin with a plan. A designer named Pierre L'Enfant created what was called the L'Enfant plan. And that was to take a typical city grid of streets, you know, ones that run north, south, and east-west, the big boxes,

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that were generally for the neighborhoods, for commerce, for the daily stuff of life, and then lay over them these sweeping avenues that connect important civic nodal points. Maybe there's a statue there, maybe that's where the Capitol or the White House is. And these create a much sort of grander architecture, and in some ways,

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The vistas of these avenues stand in for the ambition of the country, a sense of being far-seeing. And Washington has done an awful lot over the years to preserve that. Among the most basic things is we didn't build skyscrapers. We've kept a very low-slung skyline.

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And one of Trump's changes, which is this giant 250-foot tall memorial arch, would actually be one of the very tallest buildings in Washington and would fundamentally change that skyline. You really clearly, I mean, including using visuals, lay out why this arch in particular feels like a violation of so much intentional design. Could you maybe for our audience explain what you mean?

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Well, there are a number of things. First of all, you know, America has fought a lot of wars and they had not all necessarily been great wars. But in general, we have a sense that we are we don't brag about victory, that victory is not something to be celebrated because wars are an unfortunate, necessary thing from time to time.

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A victory arch seems to come out of a different language, a different vocabulary for monuments. There isn't one in Washington. They've made sort of temporary ones for parades. But to create this giant one is to... be in a slightly more celebratory mode when it comes to military power.

Chapter 5: How are ticket sales and audience engagement affected by Trump's changes?

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He likes things that he's seen in other places. Like, you know, he went to Paris and he saw an arch there. And so he wants one here. And he wants it to be the biggest. This one is going to blow them all away. The one that people know mostly is the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, France. And we're going to top it by, I think, a lot. He doesn't like open or quiet or empty things.

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He's always trying to fill in stuff. So you see him just cover the Oval Office walls with this kind of anachronistic ornamentation. It makes no sense in terms of the design of the building or the history of the building, but he fills stuff in. I don't think he's actually aware of the symbolism of Washington, and I don't think he's much in sympathy with the fundamental sense of humility

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serenity and dignity that was part of the aesthetics of the original architects of Washington, going all the way back, coming out of the Enlightenment, coming out of the 18th century. I don't think he gets it. I think he's attracted to the glitter. Is it possible that much of the American public is, too? I mean, they voted this president into office twice.

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His hotels in New York are tourist attractions. People, I guess, around the world go to his golf courses. If he plants an arch...

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On the edge of Virginia, in front of Arlington National Cemetery, behind the Lincoln Memorial, is there a chance that people end up loving it the way they ended up loving the Statue of Liberty and the Eiffel Tower, even though they might not have been clear winds when they were initially built? Yeah, that's a really interesting question. I wrestle with that all the time.

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And one of the things that's disturbing to me is that the impulses and the instincts that Americans had about the sort of markers of monarchy, we used to be really allergic to that stuff. We used to really bristle at the idea of a president being in any way imperial or king-like.

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Now I think there's less understanding of the connection between values and politics on one side and aesthetics and architecture on the other side. And so it's in some ways, the story I'm writing is an attempt to introduce Americans to what is in a sense a hidden history and a hidden aesthetics in Washington.

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that are very vital and very important, but you may not get that just by taking a quick tour on a double-decker bus of the city. But it's there, and it was extremely important to the people who made Washington into the city that is greatly beloved today.

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And if he has his way and he proves by making a new arch, by literally raising the east wing of the White House and rebuilding it in his own vision... By fundamentally altering the Kennedy Center. Is he also suggesting to future presidents that you can have your way with this city and its monuments and its environs and then thusly sort of creating some kind of, I don't know.

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