Is Big Brother watching you shop?
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What is the rise of live facial recognition in retail?
This is The Guardian.
Today, coming to a store near you, the rise of live facial recognition.
So it was the middle of the day, around lunchtime, to do my daily shop as I would normally do. Anything that fits in a basket, as far as I'm concerned. I don't need an awful lot of things. I know what I need. I'm in and out. There was a couple of things that I was thinking of getting. But as I entered the store and I noticed almost straight away that the security guard was following me. So I'd gone down the second aisle and I noticed a lady and was sort of drawn to the fact that she was looking at me. And three people surrounded me. It looked like one of them was a security guard. So at that point, I felt like I could confront him and ask him if he was following me. And then briskly walked towards me and said, excuse me, do you mind just putting everything down and leaving the building now?
So I was really upset. It was in front of loads of people. It was a busy store on a Saturday. I was really embarrassed. You're in shock and your head's spinning. You're trying to make sense of the whole thing. So I then asked, why? Can you at least explain to me why? And he said, I have had a notification on my phone to follow you because you are a shoplifter. And you know, I even questioned in the end, I was thinking, maybe I did steal something. Maybe I've actually put something in a bag and I didn't know I'd done it. And outside of the store was a poster that I've never seen before, which had a QR code. And all she said was, scan that and they will explain everything to you. And she just left me outside.
And he said, you're on face watch. I'd never even heard of it.
These stories sound like they happened in the same place, but they didn't. They're three different shoppers in three different parts of the UK, all flagged by AI systems they didn't even know were watching them. And it could be happening to you too. Every time you walk into a supermarket or down the street... Live facial recognition is being hailed as a powerful new frontier in the fight against crime. Not just by police, but private companies too. And as it spreads, it will expand surveillance into more and more public spaces. And the problem is, it doesn't always get it right.
It's very, very Orwellian. And that moment of me trying to prove I am who I am was very, very Kafkaesque as well. You're just going into this like... weird cycle of no escape. It's very, very, it's disconcerting.
From The Guardian, I'm Annie Kelly. Today in Focus, is Big Brother watching you shop?
Jessica Murray, you're The Guardian's social affairs correspondent. Welcome back to Today on Focus. You have recently done this reporting where you spoke to different people who were very abruptly asked to leave a shop by security guards because they'd been identified by something called Live Facial Recognition or LFR. You know, none of us are any strangers to CCTV. We all know we're being filmed when we're in supermarkets. But can you tell us what is LFR and how is it different?
So facial recognition technology can be quite simple. So all police forces, for instance, across the country have access to technology that can sort of map faces in, for example, CCTV footage or dashcam footage, doorbell footage to a sort of police database of mugshots, essentially, to try and find criminals or potential offenders. What's increasingly being used and which is causing quite a lot of controversy is the use of live facial recognition technology. And that is where cameras are scanning faces in real time. So people walking down the street, doing their shopping at a supermarket or attending a big event. And it's scanning thousands, millions of faces and in real time mapping them to police databases so that police within seconds could spot someone in a crowd, match them to the database and arrest someone instantly.
It's growing at such a rapid pace that there's a lot of concern about whether there's enough oversight and regulation of this.
And tell me how that would play out in that supermarket setting.
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