Work first, family second? Maternity leave rights, are they enough?
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What challenges do new parents face with maternity leave in France?
New parents here often find themselves juggling paid and unpaid leave along with holidays to try to stretch their time off to cover the first year of their baby's life. Many have to, as it's often next to impossible to get childcare for children before their first birthday. But it might surprise many to discover... that leave is actually less generous in some other European countries. But that may be changing. From today, parents in France will be entitled to more maternity and paternity leave. In a moment, we'll hear about what's available to parents in Spain and in Germany. But to tell us first about the new French system, I'm joined by Emma Pearson, editor of The Local France and co-host of The Talk in France podcast.
Emma, good morning to you. Good morning. Before we talk about this new system that's on offer, I think people might be quite surprised to hear that the maternity leave on offer in France is not great, is it?
But yeah, it's really quite short. And like you said, it does kind of surprise people because, you know, France has this reputation as being a country that's great for workers, lots of provision, lots of perks for workers. But actually, when it comes to maternity leave, it's just 16 weeks. So it's really quite short for new mums.
OK, but new measures introduced today are going to allow both mothers and fathers to take an extra month of leave.
Yeah, it's up to two months for each parent. So you can take up to two months for each person. So in total, if you're a two-parent family, you could get an extra four months, but it's not paid at full rate. So it wouldn't be possible for everyone.
OK, well, that's not great.
How does the new maternity and paternity leave system in France work?
So how much would you actually get?
Well, it kind of depends if you're working in the private or the public sector, but for most people it would be 70% of your normal salary for the first month and then 60% after that, whereas the normal maternity leave is 100% paid.
Right, OK, but it's certainly cheaper than, probably cheaper, even if you take that salary because it's probably cheaper than paying childcare.
Well, that's the thing, actually. Although France isn't very good at giving maternity leave, it does have good provision for cheap childcare. So like creche, for example, the fees are structured according to how much you earn. So lower earners pay less or nearly none for creche. So that's the flip side of that.
OK. And is there availability? Because, I mean, there's lots of childcare in theory here, but sometimes it can be difficult to locate it, particularly for younger babies.
Yeah, I mean, it depends where you are a little bit. Small towns, kind of no problem. Here in Paris, yeah, people go around as soon as they find out they're pregnant, trying to find a crash space. It can be tricky.
OK, same everywhere, I guess. What's the response been to this extra two months or potentially four months proposal?
It's actually been quite muted, to be honest. I've not really seen a huge thing. You'd think people would be ecstatic about it. But actually, there is here quite a strong culture of people going back to work quite soon. And like I said, because there's good, cheap childcare, it's considered pretty normal that you'll go back to work after your four months, and then your child will be in creche or in preschool, and the fees are sort of largely taken care of. So I think it's maybe less of a problem than in the UK or in Ireland, where it's just very hard getting any kind of childcare.
Okay. And is that childcare, I mean, is it state-run or is it provided by people in the private sector?
It's mostly provided in the private sector, but the fees are set by the government and you're reimbursed for it. So it's kind of half and half, I guess. And also, like, if you choose to use, like, a childminder or a nanny in your home, you can claim money for that or you can get tax breaks for that. So the state's quite involved, I guess.
OK. Given what you say about the lack of public excitement about this offer, why is the government doing it? I mean, is it partly a response to falling birth rates?
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