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Putin, Gaza, and America’s Fall: These Are the New Rules of War & Leadership | Jocko Willink PT 1

10 Jun 2025

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In this powerful episode of "Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu," Tom sits down with former Navy SEAL commander, leadership expert, and bestselling author Jocko Willink for a compelling exploration of modern warfare, leadership, and human nature. Known for his no-nonsense approach to personal discipline and his frontline perspectives, Jocko offers listeners a rare glimpse into how he thinks about global conflicts like Ukraine, Russia, and the Israel-Hamas war—not from the comfort of theory, but from lived experience and profound strategic insight. Tom and Jocko unravel the unpredictable realities of war, the dangers of overconfidence in leadership, and the psychology that drives nations into protracted conflicts. They also examine the concept of "why America loses wars," the test of wills at the heart of every battle, and how who needs to win often determines the real outcome. Whether you care about geopolitics, leadership under fire, or just want to understand how values play out on the world stage, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss. SHOWNOTES 00:00 Strategic Thinking in Modern Conflicts: Russia, Ukraine, and the Will to Fight02:33 The Unpredictability of War—Overconfidence, Misjudgment, and Human Nature04:17 Why America Loses Wars: The Cautionary Tale of “Wars We Don’t Have to Win”06:12 Russian and American Cultural Attitudes Toward Sacrifice and War09:01 Psychological Warfare: Israel, Hamas, and Turning World Opinion13:38 Strategic Calculus: Collateral Damage, World Sympathy, and the Cycle of Retaliation17:02 Morality in Modern Warfare: Threats, Response, and Values19:15 Defending Values: America’s Future, Internal Struggles, and Global Commerce23:04 Instilling Core Values in the Next Generation—The Origins of Jocko’s Kids Books25:22 Cultural Influence Through Storytelling: The Power of the Warrior Kid Series CONNECT WITH JOCKO WILLINKInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jockowillink/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jockowillinkYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JockoPodcastWebsite: https://jocko.com CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to ⁠https://www.vitalproteins.com⁠ and entering promo code IMPACT at check out ButcherBox: New users that sign up for ButcherBox will receive their choice between steak tips, salmon, or chicken breast in every box for a year + $20 off their first box at ⁠https://butcherbox.com/impact⁠ Monarch Money: Use code THEORY at ⁠https://monarchmoney.com⁠ for 50% off your first year! Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at ⁠https://shopify.com/impact⁠ iTrust Capital: Use code IMPACTGO when you sign up and fund your account to get a $100 bonus at ⁠https://www.itrustcapital.com/tombilyeu⁠ Jerry: Stop needlessly overpaying for car insurance - download the Jerry app or head to ⁠https://jerry.ai/impact⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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