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Toni and Ryan

Italy Will Actually Pay You To Move Here

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What financial incentives does Italy offer for moving there?

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In Tretino, if you decide to move there, the government will give you 100,000 euro. I think we should apply for one of these grants. We're moving to Italy.

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10.842 - 29.802 Megan (from voicemail introduction)

Hi, I'm Megan from Leavenworth, Kansas in the US. Hey, this is Danielle from East Palatka, Florida. Hi, I'm Deborah. Hello. And we're from Central Coast, New South Wales. And I approve this podcast.

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Welcome to the Tony and Ryan podcast. This is... Let's go, Charles. Is everything all right between the two of you? Yeah, it's just my new favorite thing to say. I think it's like a bit of a stim. It feels really good in my mouth to say. Like he said to say. Yeah. Well, people who want to come with us to Fiji have to think of their, like, catchphrase or slogan or thing. Maybe that's your entry.

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The saying of the trip.

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Chapter 2: What are the specific requirements to qualify for Italy's relocation grants?

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Yeah. That's... Sorry, I just had a Coke Zero. Tony said, don't have it, you'll burp all episode. And I said, no, it'll be fine. And here we are. In other news, we're moving to Sicily. Yay. Or we're moving to Italy. They're not the same thing. Oh. Let me give you, and it is a beautiful place, isn't it? Oh, my God. So we're in, more specifically, Tarmina.

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Yeah, if you've seen season two of White Lotus, I just was like, that place, please. Yep. Not that hotel. Yeah, well, because then the follow-up question to that every time is people are, are you staying at that hotel? We go, no. We looked into it and that was a very short inquiry. We're staying a bit further away.

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Chapter 3: How do the living conditions differ between urban and rural areas in Italy?

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We've all chipped in. A bit further up the beach. So one of us can have lunch there. And we're going to scissors, paper, rock to see who it is against eight there. Now, when we're moving around or even at home, a lot of just the chat amongst the team is always like, oh, if you had to move to a city, where would you move to? Which is the fun thing we like to talk about. Yeah.

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And we should actually pick a place and actually move there. Yeah. Agreed. Tony's pitching hard. Charles is pitching hard. Let me add some things to the mix. Mm-hmm. So is this considerations or options? This is just some facts that might scratch an itch or might get you thinking. Oh, that made me itchy, feel itchy. Update on the cactus, still in there. Still in my arm. Maybe tomorrow.

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Chapter 4: What is the significance of blue zones in Italy?

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Yeah, just wanted to let everybody know I do still have the tip of a cactus in my arm. And they do have cactus in Sicily. Everywhere. Cacti, sir. Cacti. In Tretino, these are all places in Italy, there's 33 mountain villages. And if you decide to move there, the government will give you 100,000 euro as an incentive to go there. That's like 3 million Australian dollars.

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Yeah, so it's €20,000 towards buying a home and then they'll give you €80,000 for renovations because there's a lot of like beautiful old buildings but need a little bit of love. So you kind of end up being like a caretaker of like your home, right?

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uh well it's your like it's you it's yours sorry but they give you the money so that you want to like bring it up to scratch because otherwise the difference is that they have to pay for straight up for all of the renovations but they go oh well someone's gonna love it and look after it and absolutely that's very cool there's a lot of beautiful old towns but like young people like want to move to the city and so they're like there's not many people so they need to give like incentives for people to move there

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Is that something, though, that, like, sounds like too good to be true and then it isn't or there's, like, a loophole and it's like, and you get all that money if you're under the age of blah or over the age of, like, is there, like, a lot of, is it hard to actually qualify for?

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No, there's a few little rules and stuff, but the population in these towns is shrinking and they're like, well, we have to do something or the town's not going to exist in 30 years. You know how one of my favourite... The towns aren't... The big good ones. Yeah. You know, they'll be like little villages and bits and pieces. Yeah.

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But you know how one of my favorite type of documentary to watch is like about blue zones? No.

Chapter 5: How does the Italian lifestyle contribute to longevity?

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Oh, my God. Tell me what's a blue zone. So, it's like there's concentrated areas around the world where it's most likely to be a centenarian, which is like where you live over 100. Oh, yes. And there's a couple in Italy. There's a couple of old villages where the people there like – most of the people are over 100 or they all live to be over 100.

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Is it because it's just like healthy food, good community, sunshine? Yeah, but so the one, the interesting thing, sorry, this is like a very niche point of interest for me, but the one in Italy, say, is very, very different to the one in Japan.

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Yeah.

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I think the one in Japan is in Okinawa, but they live completely differently. The climate is completely different and the interesting part is that they look and compare- What could be similar? There's one in South Korea as well. Are there any in reservoir? No, nah. But it's like, it's so fucking interesting. Anyway. If I mention any blue zones, pipe up. Yeah.

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Chapter 6: What challenges do newcomers face when relocating to Italy?

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Well, I don't know them all by now, but it is one of my favorite type of documentaries to watch. Sardinia will pay you 15,000 euro if you move there to buy a house. I'll do that. Yep. That's one of the blue zones. Sardinia is a blue zone. Yeah. And I think it's Sardinia. It's pronounced here when you're there. Yeah. No, well, if I'm there, I'm not here. No, but you would say here about Sardinia.

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So if I was in Sardinia, I'd say Tamina. No. Because that's here. No, you're thinking. Because if I was here. But you're thinking as if someone's in Tamina. Yeah, that's where I am now. No, but if you are in Sardinia, here would be here.

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Chapter 7: What are the cultural differences to expect when living in Italy?

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No, but here is Tamina. So if I'm in Sardinia, am I talking about Tamina? You're missing the bit about if you're in Sardinia. Yeah, Sardinia. I don't think you get it. You're saying Sardinia. Like, do you want a Sardinia? Like, that's not. I'll Sardinia. In my lease. That's definitely not pronounced right. If you're under 40 and open a small business. See, these are getting a bit complicated.

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Under 40 and a small business. The region will pay you 700 euro a month, just like a retainer.

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Is this a small business?

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Yeah. Yeah. Over three years, that equals €25,000. That's amazing.

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Chapter 8: How can one effectively navigate the Italian bureaucracy when moving?

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Just keep me going. Because also they know that some of that 700 is going into the local shop and the thing and the whatever. Because this is like, what was the thing in Australia, like where they did the economy, but you got $1,000 or whatever. And they're like, everyone's going to go and buy a big screen TV and stuff. And that was after the GFC. I don't know if people around the world know this.

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Everyone in Australia got given $900. Yeah. After the GFC. They just gave everybody 900 bucks. It was called something, wasn't it? Because I'm thinking in my mind baby bonus, that was a different thing. Well, there was a thing so that with declining birth rates in Australia, they offered a baby bonus for three or four years. And every baby that was born in that period of time, you got like-

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So 1500 bucks or something? I was going to say, but I think it was split up into like over three months. You got $600 each time or something. Baby bonus. Australia treats you right. Yeah. So this is a baby bonus and you don't have to have a kid. That's crazy. In Tuscany. Stanley Tucci's been there.

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If you move to a mountain village and promise to buy or renovate a home, they will give you 30,000 euro. Question. Whereas in Australia, if you buy a place, they go, thank you. And here's stamp duty. Go fuck yourself. Pay more stuff. Yeah. We know you paid X for a house, but now you've got to pay us to stamp the piece of fucking paper. Do you think? No. You could. Very rarely. Nah.

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Do you reckon you could live in like a little village town and all that's kind of there is like... So, you've got your community, you've got your bros that you like, you know, play bocce with, etc. But then like what a little store and maybe like a servo so you can fuel up your car or your tractor and what have you. Do you think you could live somewhere like that? My issue with these things is...

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Who's doing the renovating? Because I think I could do everything else. Oh, wow. That's a very good point. Because I'm guessing for me, they're like, here's money for the kitchen. I was like, cool. I can't do anything. Yeah. See, Torbs is kind of handy.

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yeah so the thing with torbs is that he because we would love to move into we would love a house with a pool yeah and obviously that's very expensive anywhere but in melbourne especially like very very expensive huh could he dig one well there's a few houses with a pool but the house is a lot older and you would have to kind of like bring it up a bit yeah

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And he's like, sweetie, I reckon we could do that. And I'm like, I just, I think that I have enough self-awareness to know that I couldn't. I'm not very patient. So I would really struggle moving into a house and it not being how I wanted it straight away. And if they say six months, that means two years. Yeah.

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And I also, as a DIY person, I reckon that there are parts of it I could do, but I can't change a fucking kitchen. I think I also would get like analysis paralysis about like deciding between two types of tile.

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