Episode 71: Daisy Peel
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What is Daisy Peel's background in dog agility?
There's a lot of tension in the community at the moment to solve these problems that we've created, and I think we're kind of right on the cusp of that next step. The agility world's a little behind bite sports, I think, because 20 plus years ago, we all got introduced to the miracle of clicker training and thought, oh my God, we can accomplish all this stuff without using harsh punishment. Let's do it. You can get really far without any aversives, but there's going to come a point where you're going to have to employ their use. A lot of people don't have any strategy to keep the dog from acting like an idiot on the end of the leash because there's not been any strategy to institute any consequences.
All right, guys, welcome to Training Without Conflict podcast. Today I have as my guest Daisy Peel. Daisy is very, very into agility. She's been nine times, I believe, in the world teams from the United States.
How does Daisy compare agility with other dog sports?
She's been doing it for a while. Daisy, welcome to the podcast. And just a little bit about yourself as I need to kind of get to know you a little bit better, not just from social media. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks for inviting me. It's cold and disgusting outside here in Ohio, so this is the perfect way to spend the afternoon. I have been on the American Kennel Club World Championship team nine times, but I got started in agility way back in 1998. I was a high school chemistry teacher. And I remember when I took the classes to learn how to be a teacher, there were these classes that, I didn't have a dog yet, but there were these classes that introduced me to this guy named B.F. Skinner. And I thought it was pretty cool. I thought that the pigeons in boxes stuff was pretty cool. And at the time, the teachers were all about, well, we need to teach these kids how to think. So B.F. Skinner, he's not real cool anymore.
And I remember thinking, well, I don't really care what these kids think. I don't care how they think. I just want to teach them the behavior. Skinner sounds like a pretty cool dude. So that was kind of my very first introduction to dog training.
What strategies does Daisy use for training dogs at the world stage?
I didn't even have a dog. I was just learning to be a teacher. And then I really wanted a dog and I didn't. I didn't know what I was going to do with the dog, but I knew I wanted to do something. I went to the library because the internet was just a baby. I started reading books about different breeds. Then I saw this little show about agility on Animal Planet. That was in 1998. So then I adopted a dog from the local shelter and I started teaching it to do agility. I took some classes and then it was kind of off to the races. So I kind of came to agility backwards from pretty much everybody else. Most people in agility have a dog and it's naughty. and it's jumping on their furniture and jumping over fences.
And somebody says, oh, you should do agility. Your dog will be great at it. Like who, you know, you don't need to be a dog trainer. Just go to, just go do it. Your dog's jumping. It's fine. That's all it needs to know.
What are the cultural differences in dog sports training?
So I kind of came at it backwards and that's how I got into agility initially.
So did you, did you start right away with the, with the Border Collies or did you go a different route?
I started with the Border Collies, but it was an accident. It was accidental because when I went to the library, there was a book on Border Collies and there was a book on Australian Shepherds. And in the Border Collie book, they were all black and white. And the Border Collie book, basically the whole book was telling you about how you should not own a Border Collie. They were for serious people only. And you were not good enough to read one or to own one. They were not for the casual pet owner. And the Australian Shepherd book had all these dogs that were different colors. And they went on and on about how it's just like a Border Collie, only it's easier to live with. which is bullshit. But anyways, so I went to the shelter and the dog that I found was red and white.
Now it had a tail. So I thought, well, well, that's kind of weird.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Daisy Peel's background in dog agility?
0:00–1:28
2
How does Daisy compare agility with other dog sports?
1:28–2:47
3
What strategies does Daisy use for training dogs at the world stage?
2:47–3:44
4
What are the cultural differences in dog sports training?
3:44–5:25
5
How does Daisy address the use of aversives in dog training?
5:25–6:58
6
What common challenges do agility trainers face?
6:58–8:35
7
What is the importance of mental preparation in dog agility?
8:35–10:39
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How can trainers effectively evaluate their training methods?
10:39–1:58:25