Episode 73: Pierre Wahlstrom
episodePreviously titled “Episode 73: Piere Walshtrom” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
I like the way that organizations protect our animals. We need them. We must have an opposite side to all this violence going on around the world.
There is something about adversity in any animal. We all try to push our limits and try to overcome some form of adversity. You grow from it.
I 100% agree and it's true. I put a lot of attention now to teach people that leadership is not violence. Leadership is not a question of corrections or number of how many times you have to correct your dog.
It's a normal way of life.
Here we go.
How is the situation? Come on, tell me a little bit.
It's been a long, long time. It's been a long time. So I am, I mean, I'm kind of like you. I don't think we know how to stop this dog training stuff. You know, like, I don't think we can stop. I am, I have, I have, um, so I have my close to four or five years old now dog that, you know, I'm competing with. This is going to be like hopefully the first year going to the big championships. I got a female that is two years younger. I have a male that is four years younger. And I have another female that I'm actually doing monduring with.
Wow.
So, yeah, I think I can just... shoot myself. I mean, there is no reason, there is no reason for me to do this besides that they're dogs for my breeding and they're really, really cool dogs.
How does leadership in dog training differ from violence?
And I feel it's kind of weird, but I cannot let them go to somebody else. I'm like really enjoying the training, you know, and fortunately enough for right now, at least I can, I can spend the time I have. I mean, not that I have time, but I can, I'm making it work. I'm making it work.
But, you know, it's a passion, you know, Ivan. It's a passion for you and you love... You know, I try to explain this sometimes for people that it's very hard to explain it because it's more like... I can understand artists, you know, who are painting or people who are writing music. It's more like a stimulation for them to fulfill their... their soul. You know what I mean? If they are not allowed to paint, they get crazy. So for some people, for your example, it's more like an art. It's a way of life. And when they say to you to stop training, it's like saying to someone to stop
playing music or or painting a painting you know what i mean just to tell picasso to stop stop painting yeah this is a really good example actually because um even though a painter's painting they never paint the same picture and i think with dog training is very much similar sometimes they're the type of trainers that they can be for very long time in the game but but it's always looking for different interesting things. And that's, I think, what keeps it going instead of, okay, well, I know how to do it and I stay with what I know instead of trying to push the door and see what happens if I take it this way. I think that's where it gets interesting eventually.
But you know, that is exactly what these people do, the arts. I mean, the thing that they can catch our attention with different paintings is because they go out of the box all the time and surprise. I have no idea about painting, you know what I mean? But I can understand the people who have good knowledge and can evaluate and give a number of money of a painting, you know what I mean? I have no idea, but I can understand them. And the same is, I think it's with you, and I feel also like that, and people have been in the sport a long time. It's also very hard to promote training with on demand. So so that the competitions is a little bit against our paintings, our art for training, because the training, the freedom of exploration,
The training is more important for us than the result. Then we are competitive people. Of course, we hate to lose. And that pushes us to do stupid things, to push us to paint with our emotions like the same, maybe. Now we get very deep, I'm sorry, but... I cannot explain this for so many people than, for example, you and a couple of more people more. Knut and I have a nice discussion, Fuchs. He's the same type of guy. He only loves animals, you know what I mean?
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–2:18
2
How does leadership in dog training differ from violence?
2:18–1:16:46
3
What challenges do trainers face before competitions?
1:16:46–1:23:13
4
What are the differences in dog training culture between the USA and Europe?
1:23:13–1:24:05
5
How does aggression management in dog training vary across regions?
1:24:05–1:24:53
6
What are the key traits to evaluate in working dogs?
1:24:53–1:26:47
7
How can tracking techniques be improved for better dog performance?
1:26:47–2:38:26