We head back to Ecuador to explore a lesser-visited southeastern loop that moves from the high Andes into the Amazon in just a few hours. David and Tim swap rainforest lodge stories, then David sits down in Cuenca with Felipe from Two Degrees Expeditions to unpack a new, community-driven route that threads cacao and guayusa farms, light-adventure rafting, birding lodges, Shuar cultural experiences, and standout gastronomy in Saraguro.Why listen:• Discover how quickly you can link the Andes and Amazon in southern Ecuador• Learn what “light adventure” looks like for families and curious first-timers• Hear how Shuar and Saraguro communities are leading culture-forward, sustainable tourism• Get ideas for unique stays, from river-perched rooms to forest cabinsPlaces and experiences mentioned• Cuenca• The Andes and the Amazon of southern Ecuador• Cacao farm visit and chocolate tasting• Guayusa farming and tea tradition• Family-friendly rafting experience• Shuar community visit and cultural exchange• Saraguro town and Chamuico restaurant (six-course tasting)• Lodges referenced: Rio Vida Lodge (Hualaquiza), Copalinga Forest LodgeResponsible travel notes• This route is intentionally community-based. Please book with operators who compensate local partners fairly and cap group sizes.• Follow lodge guidance on river and rainforest safety, stick to marked paths, and use insect repellent that is rainforest-safe.• Cultural photography: always ask permission, especially during ceremonies.Connect with the guestBook directly with Two Degrees Expeditions or find them on Instagram at 2 degrees expeditions.Note: Some of the above are affiliate links. if you book using them you will not be charged any extra, but we will receive a small commission to help support the show.Mentioned in this episode:Check out the Smart Travel PodcastThis week's show is supported by the new Smart Travel Podcast. Travel smarter — and spend less — with help from NerdWallet. Check out Smart Travel at the Link below:Smart Travel PodcastCheck out the new Smart Travel Podcast.This week's show is supported by the new Smart Travel Podcast. Travel smarter — and spend less — with help from NerdWallet. Check out Smart Travel at the Link below:Smart Travel Podcast

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