In this inspiring episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down at the COABE Conference with two powerhouse leaders in adult education from New Mexico: Dr. Amber Gallup, State Director of Adult Education, and Jamie Trujillo, Executive Director of the New Mexico Adult Education Association.Together, they explore how New Mexico is transforming its adult education landscape—tackling systemic barriers, passing groundbreaking legislation, and creating bold new pathways through programs like HiSET. From student ambassador initiatives to free testing and living stipends, Amber and Jamie share the strategies, stories, and policy wins that are making real impact in learners’ lives—and offer powerful advice for states looking to do the same.🎙️ P.S. Want to hear even more from Jamie? Tune into her own podcast, Connect with Adult Ed: the NMAEA Podcast for powerful topics and perspectives from across New Mexico's adult ed community.If you care about education, equity, and workforce readiness, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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