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True Crime Conversations

How A Cop Killer Became Australia’s Most Wanted Fugitive

20 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What triggered the manhunt for Desmond Filby?

3.119 - 29.736 Cassie Zervos

It's Monday, March 30 in 2026, and Cassie Zervos is getting ready to take her four-month-old baby to a mums and bubs gym class. She's currently on maternity leave from her job as crime editor at 7 News Melbourne. But as she packs the wipes and nappies into her bag while juggling her daughter on her hip, her watch buzzes with a notification. It keeps buzzing. Curious, Cassie checks her phone.

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One of her police contacts has messaged. DF found, it reads. Moments later, another message comes through. DF dead. Immediately, Cassie knows what it means.

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Chapter 2: Who were the police officers involved in the tragic shooting?

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Desi Freeman, real name Desmond Philby, Australia's most wanted fugitive for the past seven months. The man accused of murdering two police officers at his rural Victorian property. The man accused of fleeing a home in which police found hundreds of files containing child abuse material. That man, that criminal, is dead.

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Finally, the manhunt that has terrorised a country and a police force in mourning is over. I'm Gemma Bath and you're listening to True Crime Conversations, a podcast exploring the world's most notorious crimes by speaking to the people who know the most about them. Two men, two Victorian police officers, simply doing their jobs, were killed on August 26, 2025, by Desmond Filby.

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Their names were 59-year-old Detective Leading Senior Constable Neil Thompson and 34-year-old Senior Constable Vadim Davatotar. A third officer was left seriously wounded. The deaths of Neil and Vadim have been felt deeply by their families,

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Chapter 3: How did Desmond Filby evade capture for seven months?

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friends and colleagues in blue. Neil was just a week from retirement, a dedicated detective attached to the Wangaratta Criminal Investigation Unit. His loved ones describe a man who loved footy and campfires and hammocks, a naturally talented bushman who left behind his partner of six years, Lisa, and two stepchildren. Vadim was just 34.

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He lived and worked in Melbourne, a member of the Public Order Response Team. He was only supposed to be in regional Victoria for a week on deployment to help deal with snow crowds. Born in Belgium, Thad migrated to Australia as an adult and was known as kind, adventurous, upbeat and worldly. An adrenaline junkie and a romantic at heart. Thad leaves behind his devastated parents and brother.

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After murdering these two beloved men, Philby, a self-identified sovereign citizen and accused pedophile, fled the scene, leaving his wife and baby at the property. That was the start of seven long months of searching, of false leads, of horrific taunts from others in his community who shared his anti-police beliefs of heartbreaking funerals and tearful goodbyes.

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Then, in March 2026, while cradling her baby, Cassie broke the news of Philby's death from her living room. Well, we have some major breaking news now in regards to the search for Desi Freeman.

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210.997 - 215.207 Gemma Bath

Let's go live to Cassie Zervos now in Melbourne. Cassie, this is all happening. What can you tell us?

216.014 - 233.717 Cassie Zervos

Good morning, guys. Well, this is obviously huge developing news this morning. What we can confirm is that Desi Freeman, the man who shot dead two police officers in August last year, was found in the Popanka region this morning by heavily armed officers. But as you can understand, this is very much a developing story.

Chapter 4: What was the community's reaction to the police shooting?

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So details on how it actually unfolded, what went down, how police were able to find him are still unknown. But of course, we will bring you those details as soon as we get them. Cassie has returned from maternity leave again briefly to release a six-part podcast called Desi Freeman, The Hunt.

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Just a note, in this episode, we will be referring to the killer by his birth name, Desmond Philby, not the name he self-appointed to himself in conjunction with his sovereign citizen beliefs. Cassie joins us now to take us behind the scenes of covering this extraordinary and horrifying case. Cassie, thank you for joining us on True Crime Conversations. Can you take me back to August 2025?

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279.131 - 301.564 Cassie Zervos

Where were you at in your life and career at that point in time? Yeah, Gem, thanks for having me. Wow, it seems like so long ago, even though it was only seven months ago, or eight months now. I was in my third trimester of pregnancy. It was a Tuesday morning. Morning, I was sent out to just another crime scene in Melbourne. I can't even remember what it was now.

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But I do remember sitting in the car, my cameraman's car, because my feet were sore, my back was sore, everything was aching. I was at that stage where I was sort of like waddling around and just sort of counting down the days to maternity leave. And my phone was in my pocket and I sort of was checking it and scrolling and I saw these messages that kind of pop up.

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And there were a number of text messages from contacts saying there's been some sort of police incident in the Alpine region in Victoria and a number of members are unaccounted for. And I was like, what does unaccounted for mean? And I actually said, excuse my ignorance, but what does unaccounted for mean?

Chapter 5: What details led to the police executing a search warrant?

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And the message was, Cass, I'll call you. And the conversation was, we think there's been a police shooting. We think at least two members have been killed. And I remember sort of looking, it was this weird moment because I looked out and it was raining and it was cold in Melbourne. And I looked out at the cameraman and I was like, is this happening? Like, is this for real?

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And then thinking, what do we do now? So it was just the process of calling the newsroom and hitting the road pretty much as soon as we got word that there was a major police incident. And because it was four and a half hours away from where we were in town, All we could do was just get there as soon as we could safely, of course.

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So without going home, getting supplies or anything, you just hit the road straight to the scene? Hit the road. I remember wearing boots with heels because I'd actually made plans with my husband that night to go out for dinner. And I was in like a maternity dress, a big kind of coat. And that was it. That's all I had on me. I didn't have anything else.

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And to be honest, I didn't think I would be there for as long as I did. I genuinely thought by the time we arrived in Port Punker, the accused would have been in custody.

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Chapter 6: How did the situation escalate during the police operation?

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I genuinely thought that. Because it was a good four-and-a-half, five-hour drive, I thought, oh, by the time we get there, the narrative of the story would have changed and there would have been, you know, an angle of, OK, we've got court cases and there'll be charges and this kind of thing.

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But when I arrived and that wasn't the case and there was still an active manhunt on, it sort of hit me that... I could be here for a while. And it turned out I was there for 17 days straight. So it was one of those things where, yeah. And then like messages were coming through from like Vic Emergency saying, if you can stay inside active shooter on the run, do not approach.

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Desmond Philby on the run, do not approach, active shooter. And those messages kept coming through. And we're obviously there and the police were there. And you're thinking, are we safe? Where could this guy be? Could he be hiding in plain sight? What's the situation here? So there were all these different emotions and feelings going on. But you sort of go into like the adrenaline kicks in.

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and I almost forgot I was pregnant. It was just kind of like, okay, I'm in work mode now. I want to do the best that I can do and cover this as the best that I can. And, um,

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Chapter 7: What were the circumstances surrounding Desmond Filby's death?

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And we were just waiting for the next update, really. Let's set the scene a bit for listeners of the area we're talking about. Pawpunka, regional Victoria. Can you tell us about it? What's it like there? It's beautiful. It's the Alpine region. So there's beautiful Mount Buffalo in the background.

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And at the time in August, it was the end of August towards the start of September, it was freezing in Melbourne and the weather was awful. But there was actually snowfall. So it was like this beautiful place.

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part of the world um but freezing and tiny quite rural uh lots of farming properties the area that the police were searching was really dense the terrain was really dense um i'm not a camper i'm not a hiker i'm not like i'm i'm not really familiar with that kind of those kind of activities but a lot of people who other journalists who were there had

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been camping there and had gone on weekend hikes and it's a beautiful tourist town so it's actually a really stunning part of the world um and why lots of people decide to holiday there and you know go on the camping trips and go on the snow snow trips as well so it's um but it's it's remote it's very remote and particularly Desmond's property it was um it was huge uh

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And from an outsider looking in, like you drive past his street right in a track and you wouldn't know that there's a huge rural property there. But there's so many properties like it around that area where there's farmers and people who are running businesses for caravanning and campervanning and that kind of thing as well. So you've got a bit of everything there.

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And Philby's residence on this enormous property, it wasn't actually a house, was it? It was a bus? Yeah, it was like an old run-down bus that was, he turned it into, I guess, a house for him and his family. The owners of the actual property allowed him to stay there and,

Chapter 8: How has this case impacted the families and police community?

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But he didn't own the property, the actual land itself. He was just living on a bus on the property. And he'd been living there for some time, I believe. But this was a man who was anti-society. He decided to homeschool his children. He didn't want to get his kids vaccinated. which, you know, each to their own, but he made himself known in town for his beliefs and particularly during COVID.

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639.951 - 662.215 Cassie Zervos

And that's something that we really sort of deep dive during this whole period of the manhunt and particularly post it as well in the last few months. Well, let's talk about what happened before we get to Philby's beliefs. It was about 10.30 in the morning and police were attending the property to execute a search warrant. Can you tell us the details of that?

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662.335 - 686.861 Cassie Zervos

Why were they executing a search warrant? Sure. So there were allegations against Philby that historic child abuse allegations dating back to the past two years. And that's what Victoria Police came out and said. So it was very much... So it was a search warrant to go in and search and seize any potential evidence that could be held against him. And that's why they were there.

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It was a routine search warrant. Police do these kind of warrants almost every day for all different reasons. You know, and a lot of people have come out and said, why, if it was just a routine search warrant, why were there so many police officers there? And I've spoken to officers who...

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I've worked closely on this case and they said because the property is obviously so big, it's not unusual to have that many members attend a search warrant because it's a huge property and it's time, you know, being time efficient and it's quite common, even in Melbourne or even in like... you know, suburban warrants.

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It's quite common for there to be more numbers than not for safety reasons as well. But there was nothing unusual about this search warrant. They didn't believe he was capable of carrying out what he did that day. And I think that's something that will come out now in the coroner's inquest, which is expected to begin in the next couple of months too. Let's go into Filby's background.

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Because he was known to police. This wasn't the first time they'd had run-ins with him. Can you tell us about him? To start with, his name, publicly everyone will know him as Desmond, Desi Bird Freeman. That's not his name. No, it's not. It's not Gem. He actually changed his name, I believe, in the late 2000s to Desi Freeman.

770.121 - 794.805 Cassie Zervos

And the surname Freeman, if you break it up, Freeman, and that's quite a popular name within the sovereign citizen community. Movement. He was born as Desmond Christopher Philby, and that's what his family knew him as. I've been speaking to some of his family members post everything that's happened, and when I speak to them, they refer to him as Des or Desmond.

795.706 - 815.024 Cassie Zervos

They don't make reference to that Freeman surname that he changed it to. He was actually... you know, in his early teens, late teens, early twenties, really into the hippie movement and would go to and attend a lot of festivals that often spread messages of love and peace. And he was sort of going down that path.

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