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Hodgetwins Podcast

This Is NOT What We Voted For...

16 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What sparked the discussion about the war with Iran?

1.381 - 32.759 Keith Hodges

We got attacked online on Facebook when we said we're at war with Iran. They said it's not a war, it's a military operation. I was just like, you know what? Fuck this. Okay. It's just, I mean, on the left, there's a lot of people that there's no objectivity. You just regurgitate whatever your politicians tell you. I found over the past month, the right has that very same problem.

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33.5 - 40.669 Keith Hodges

They don't want to criticize Trump. One iota. They even believe that we're not at war right now.

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42.725 - 47.172 Kevin Hodges

It's almost like it's Talmudic in a way. It's not a war.

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47.232 - 50.156 Unknown

It's a kinetic action.

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50.236 - 52.86 Kevin Hodges

It's not a war. What are you talking about?

53.121 - 54.202 Unknown

Right, right.

54.243 - 63.597 Keith Hodges

I'm like, I want to tell these people, so if Iran-Texas bombs us, we're not at war. That's pretty much what you're saying. No, that's a terrorist.

Chapter 2: How do political biases affect public perception of military actions?

63.617 - 72.73 Keith Hodges

That's a terrorist attack. That's a terrorist attack. That's a terrorist attack. It's crazy to feel like you're surrounded by crazy people.

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72.751 - 90.208 Kevin Hodges

Well, they actually studied. You can just change the words to sell things, right? Right. Like the Department of War was changed to Department of Defense, and now it's back to the Department of War. But they thought it sounded better to say it's the Department of Defense, not war. So just rename a special operation, right, instead of a war.

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90.228 - 92.57 Keith Hodges

You heard about that school we bombed, 170?

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93.191 - 95.393 Kevin Hodges

The girls' school? Yeah, it was 170 girls.

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95.493 - 100.238 Keith Hodges

When we posted on Facebook, everybody in Texas said, no, that was the Iranians. They shot it down for Tomahawk.

100.218 - 103.509 Kevin Hodges

But then they admitted that it was us.

103.589 - 108.385 Keith Hodges

Yeah, but what's his name? Kennedy. Senator Kennedy said it was a huge mistake. It's horrible.

Chapter 3: What is the difference between a war and a military operation?

108.666 - 113.181 Keith Hodges

I posted that on Facebook. It's like, no, he has the wrong information.

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113.87 - 122.443 Kevin Hodges

Everything is fake, right? Yeah. I mean, anything you put up, you get attacked for it no matter what. Like bots just go crazy. He said y'all got botted before.

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122.643 - 140.029 Keith Hodges

Yeah, it's like I always want to be objective. Like I'm a Republican. I support the Republican Party. I voted for Trump three times. But it's like I'm not allowed to critique him or criticize him at all. And that makes me fake MAGA. I'm not MAGA. It's crazy. He started labeling us as woke.

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140.566 - 159.516 Kevin Hodges

Well, that's like a cult, right? Yeah. I mean, in a cult, you can't criticize the leader. So it's like a religious affiliation. You can't – it's dogmatic, right? But, I mean, I kind of – I remember back in 2007 when they basically excommunicated Ron Paul from being part of the political process. I was like, all right, politics is ridiculous. Right.

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159.616 - 169.561 Kevin Hodges

Not that I don't support a lot of the policies. Like if Trump does something good, I'm for it. But – That's the problem is people get cult of personality and then they just want to follow no matter what.

169.761 - 181.974 Keith Hodges

That's a very interesting point you just made because he's been attacking Rand Paul, ever since he got booked, Massey, he's calling Marjorie Green a traitor.

Chapter 4: How has the narrative around regime change evolved over time?

182.194 - 182.995 Kevin Hodges

Anybody with principles.

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183.416 - 184.257 Keith Hodges

Yeah.

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184.277 - 184.518 Kevin Hodges

Right?

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185.259 - 192.149 Keith Hodges

Right, right, right. I mean, okay, I feel like I'm not going crazy. I just feel like people are pissing on my head and they're telling me it's rain.

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192.529 - 201.642 Kevin Hodges

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, again, like, I mean— We have to do what Israel says or else, right? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

202.583 - 221.569 Keith Hodges

Well, it happened back in, what was that? That was in the 80s, right? Weapons of WMDs. Turns out there was none. Now here in 2026, they say the same thing and they fall for it. It would be great if they would show us the evidence. Why don't they show us evidence that they're working towards having a nuclear bomb?

221.549 - 241.426 Kevin Hodges

Or at least some fake evidence or something. At least I remember Donald Rumsfeld and what was his name? Colin Powell. He's tried to have like some little highlights magazine infographics of like the fake, you know, they've got these, you know, gas tanks and they're going to gas everybody. But they don't even do that anymore. And they don't even like do the false flag. They just do it. Right.

241.446 - 246.255 Kevin Hodges

We were talking about that before. Like, right. Do we not even get a false flag anymore? We just get a war? Right.

246.275 - 256.674 Keith Hodges

But it's not a war. It's crazy because we bombed them, what, last January? Say we destroyed their nuclear capabilities? It was obliterated. Yeah, it was obliterated. That's what he said. And they say, hey, they're two weeks away from a nuclear.

Chapter 5: What historical events are referenced in relation to current conflicts?

257.415 - 266.592 Keith Hodges

It's like, how many times do these people got to say this and lie to you? And to you, like, wait a minute, maybe my politician, maybe Trump is probably, he's not telling us the whole truth.

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266.858 - 288.462 Kevin Hodges

Yeah. I mean, there's a great clip that everybody forgets where it ties into that book. Netanyahu is 2001 or two where he's he's before Congress. You might find it on Twitter, but they're like asking him questions about Iraq war and all that. And it's like, if you want to change the country, if you want to change someone, be Melrose place in 90210.

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288.627 - 307.999 Kevin Hodges

So he's talking about Hollywood is a better force for changing than war. And now it's just straight up war, which that's the old Oded Yunan plan, the greater Israel project. That's also the clean break strategy of Likud. It's all of those countries in those memos. Right. Right. And we've done them all now, except for one more in there. One left. Yeah. Yeah.

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308.019 - 311.445 Kevin Hodges

So Egypt, Egypt, Turkey, Turkey's last one.

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311.425 - 335.084 Keith Hodges

So that goal is regime change. It's never worked anywhere. Do you think Trump's going to be successful in a regime change in what, 60 days? Before you answer that, there hasn't been really a regime change. His son took over. Yeah, but it's a regime change. You've got to give it the program. You fake MAGA. But they keep saying we need a regime change, but it's something to go.

335.124 - 336.065 Kevin Hodges

That's not a real regime.

336.125 - 338.829 Keith Hodges

I don't think it's over. I think they're going to kill him, too.

Chapter 6: How do the speakers view the concept of evidence in military actions?

339.77 - 358.835 Kevin Hodges

Exactly. You were correct to point to Iraq and that being a repeat. And it's also a repeat of 1953 with the first CIA regime coup change in Iran. Right, in Iran, yeah. Yeah, with Operation Ajax, Kermit Roosevelt. Um, and they didn't, they started with the student rights and all that, and they thought it wasn't going to be successful.

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358.875 - 376.279 Kevin Hodges

And then the CIA was like, let us keep trying, let us keep trying. And then it, that regime change failed though, because they had to bring in the Ayatollah Khashoggi after the Shah, because the Shah was a huge failure. Right. So it's like in that vacuum, they immediately have to bring in the next Muslim cleric. So in other words, people don't realize that British intelligence, um,

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376.529 - 384.701 Kevin Hodges

And the CIA had already put Ayatollahs in power. You wouldn't have Ayatollahs without them making those deals. That's declassified, too, by the way. Oh, wow.

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384.881 - 400.845 Keith Hodges

Yeah. Yeah. So what's the whole purpose of them bombing and killing that supreme leader? Their son took over. I mean, and Trump said he wants to pick the next supreme leader of Iran. But how can you do that? It sounds like to me Israel and United States of America and Trump, they want to put a Zionist.

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400.865 - 413.109 Kevin Hodges

They want the son of the Shah. The guy that the CIA already tried back in the 50s. So they want his son or grandson, whatever it is, Pahlavi. And he's like massive pro-Zionist. So that's why they want that.

413.129 - 423.66 Keith Hodges

That's the only way it would work. I've been bringing it up. It's got to be a Zionist or you won't have a regime change there. But how successful is that going to be? In a terrorist country.

423.68 - 438.497 Kevin Hodges

That's the thing. It's hard to gauge whether these people actually are or are not popular because all the stats you're going to get are going to be fake government intelligence stats anyway. So they're just going to say, oh, this new guy, he's wildly popular, but who knows? I don't know. Right.

438.477 - 457.856 Keith Hodges

I'm just thinking that's the only way it would work for Israel is if there's a Zionist there, but they label Iran as this terroristic country that's bringing all this terrorism in the region, but you're going to install a Zionist there. How is that going to work out when you're surrounded by terrorists? I don't get it.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of labeling countries as terrorist states?

457.876 - 481.662 Kevin Hodges

But also there's been, if you read Victor Ostrowski's book, like the Mossad has sold weapons to Iran before. And even, even some of the FC falls. So it's not, there's a deeper game beyond that where sometimes they want destabilizing forces there. This is why they created Hamas. Okay. Right. Because that gives an excuse to bomb. Yeah. So it just depends.

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481.702 - 499.88 Kevin Hodges

I do think they did eventually want some kind of regime change, but like, If you look at what they did with Jolani in Syria, like they specifically wanted, you know, an al-Qaeda type thing in Syria because that's a destabilizing force for Syria. And it gives Israel the excuse to do whatever they want to do because, oh, we're under threat, we're under threat.

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500.141 - 508.974 Keith Hodges

Donald Trump's been saying they're trying to make Iran great again. Yeah, we're doing this for the Iranian people. And I heard that and I was like, come on. Y'all can't be falling for this.

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508.994 - 528.627 Kevin Hodges

Well, they said the same thing in 1953 when the CIA did the coup, and they did the propaganda to free the Iranians because they were also saying, well, the Soviets are going to come in, and their influence are going to take over Iran, so we have to do it, right? It's the same excuse, but all of that in 1953 was because Iran had nationalized the oil.

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528.607 - 547.071 Kevin Hodges

So they were trying to take possession of their own oil. They were saying, we're not getting a good cut from BP, or what would eventually be BP. It was an Anglo-Iranian oil company. And so ultimately, you can go back to that. The war was at that time at the behest of the oil companies. And so now it's pretty much probably the same, but also Israel.

549.262 - 559.253 Keith Hodges

It's not for the people. Yeah, because I see some comments. We're doing it for the Iranians, right? And then the next comment is like, yeah, turn that place into glass.

559.273 - 582.005 Kevin Hodges

I'm like, this is Christian saying this. Look, the Iranians would not be under a terrorist leader if there was no Iran or Iranians, right? Yeah. If you got rid of all the Iranians, there wouldn't be any terrorists. So there you go. That's vegan logic, too, because vegans are like, well, if we get rid of all creatures, then creatures won't suffer anymore. I'm serious.

582.026 - 584.028 Kevin Hodges

They actually make that argument. I'm being serious. Right, right.

584.408 - 593.319 Keith Hodges

Yeah, I was watching Fox News, and they were showing all the people, all the protesters, with holding up Iranian flags saying they're so happy that we bombed their country. Right.

Chapter 8: How do the speakers critique the motivations behind U.S. military interventions?

593.479 - 607.617 Keith Hodges

I was like, how disingenuous is that? Because, look, there was millions of people protesting Donald Trump because he was supposedly a king. Right. And there was— I think it was, from my point of view, it looked like propaganda. It's like not everybody in Iran is happy that we're bombing them.

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607.697 - 626.924 Keith Hodges

But Fox News and a lot of Republicans, a lot of Facebook pages were pushing the idea, look, the Iranians, they're happy that we're bombing them. I was like, how stupid and gullible do you got to be? Yeah, because they're selling Donald Trump. That's why they're doing that. Like, they call us grifters. If I was like a true grifter, I would be glazing the hell out of Trump right now.

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626.944 - 638.166 Keith Hodges

I would be praising everything that he's doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they call me a grifter when I criticize him. I make more money grifting for Trump, not pretending to be a Democrat. That doesn't make any sense.

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638.247 - 641.814 Kevin Hodges

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. No, you can't even trust him.

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641.935 - 643.478 Keith Hodges

Lower Loomer?

644.318 - 664.302 Kevin Hodges

You can't even trust that protest stuff either because if you go back to, I think, 2008 or 2009, the CIA was beginning to try to push for what they're doing right now, which was the Green Revolution. So color revolutions are all National Endowment for Democracy, NED, Gene Sharp, and the Einstein Institute. They all push for...

664.282 - 690.981 Kevin Hodges

this idea of color revolutions which we've done in all these post-soviet countries it's a cia project and they were pushing the green revolution in iran about 2009 10 11 and it wasn't successful but they've been trying to do this for a long time to get this regime change yeah i think uh what what we've done i'm gonna i'm just you know i'm hoping for the best and i'm just i'm still pulling from i don't want to see more soldiers die i don't want to see nothing you know

690.961 - 706.114 Keith Hodges

I want something good to come out of this, but can we really get anything good? We killed that Supreme Leader. We destroyed that Navy. We've killed thousands of their citizens. I mean, this is a mark that the United States is going to carry for a long time, forever, forever. It's no coming back from this.

706.775 - 730.528 Kevin Hodges

And also, I mean, Shia Islam is a little more amenable to Christianity in the West than has been, say, Sunni Islam. Sunni Islam has a tendency to be more aggressive. Iran's a little more tolerant, but it's also an end times cult. So that will just embolden this kind of ideology of the Shia to be more aggressive, I would think.

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