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Two Blokes Talking Tech

#734 PRIVATE - Life's Tragedy

29 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the hosts' thoughts on the productivity of their podcast?

0.031 - 1.875 Trevor Long

What a productive day we've had.

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2.757 - 25.37 Stephen Fenech

Wow, we've pumped them out, haven't we? Yeah, there is an issue with, you know, forthcoming shows, but we'll get there. Well, we'll be right, mate. We've never not done a show because we didn't have enough to talk about. We somehow found enough to talk about. It just comes to us. Like this show. Like The Private. Have we ever written a thing down for The Private Feet ever? No, I don't think so.

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25.39 - 32.12 Stephen Fenech

It just happens. I don't know what you're about to say. Okay, I don't know what you're about to say either. That's why shock and surprise.

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32.26 - 34.303 Trevor Long

How about a bit of Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross?

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34.624 - 46.902 Stephen Fenech

Fuck you! Fuck you! I'll never forgive you for not liking that movie. There's something wrong with you. There's something wrong? Yeah. Yeah. You're a circuit short, mate, up there, I reckon.

47.883 - 50.306 Trevor Long

Anyhow. A sandwich short of a picnic. Is that what you're calling me?

50.326 - 61.442 Stephen Fenech

Well, yeah, not that, but just different. You react, you're a different makeup, different. You receive things differently sometimes.

Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about their differing opinions on movies?

61.422 - 68.712 Stephen Fenech

We agree on most of them, but sometimes something that I think is really good, you think is shit. So that's disappointing.

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68.732 - 69.113 Trevor Long

It happens.

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69.674 - 88.161 Stephen Fenech

It really does. Like Star Wars. You don't think that's amazing. I definitely don't think that's amazing. You know what I mean? It lands different with you. Cornflake cookies were all right. Did you like them? Thanks. That's my mother-in-law, Anne. Thanks, Anne. I'm so glad you gave me a bit without sultana in it. Oh, so you don't like sultana?

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88.222 - 93.991 Trevor Long

No. And you don't eat grapes either, do you? Oh, you said to me, you like cornflakes, you'll like these. And what else is in them? You said, oh, I like flour and egg and water.

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94.011 - 94.872 Stephen Fenech

Flour and eggs and shit.

94.913 - 101.804 Trevor Long

He left out the fucking word sultana. So you don't eat sultanas? No. Have you ever tried a sultana? I don't know, but look at them. They're disgusting.

103.026 - 126.495 Stephen Fenech

They're dried grapes, mate. I don't like grapes. Did you know that? You don't eat grapes either. No. Do you eat mango? No. You don't have mango? No. Probably the nicest fruit ever. Well done. And you don't have it. Bananas? You eat bananas? Bananas, yes. Cherries? No. Do you eat oranges? Orange juice. You don't eat an orange orange? Really? No. Wow. You are weird.

126.475 - 132.284 Trevor Long

Just saying. I've come to that conclusion. That's not breaking news. You are strange. Just in case anyone was wondering.

132.404 - 148.45 Stephen Fenech

Now, look, on a serious – I'm going to turn it serious now. Okay, mate. Hang on. No, no, serious. The news of Jai Arrow. Which broke last week while we were recording, so there was a lot to digest. Yeah, so we didn't – as we were finishing up, we heard about it.

Chapter 3: What impact did Jai Arrow's news have on the hosts?

278.559 - 301.243 Stephen Fenech

Walking around, not a drama, but his voice is already starting to go. Yeah. Which is – I can't understand why – like, Dad was – his voice went after his mobility. His voice has gone before his mobility. And look – And same week, Neil Danaher passed from 13 years. He had motor neurone disease, and that's remarkable.

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301.303 - 303.948 Trevor Long

It is a remarkably different disease for everyone.

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Chapter 4: What personal experiences do the hosts share regarding motor neurone disease?

303.968 - 322.744 Trevor Long

I remember in, I'm going to say 2006, maybe 2007, because I was still at TGB. We, continuous call team, we did stupid things all the time. We decided we were going to do... We found out there was a town called Neville, which is obviously hilarious to the boys. It's just outside of Bathurst. And we're like, we should do a broadcast from there.

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322.764 - 342.977 Trevor Long

So Trev drives to Neville to see if there's like a pub or something. There's nothing there. It's like Walker Road. There's nothing there. But, you know, essentially the mayor of Neville, this bloke, I'm pretty sure his name was Ted. He was in a wheelchair, like a motorised wheelchair, and we went into his house and then he took us across the road to like a big shed.

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342.997 - 359.781 Trevor Long

I don't think it was a pub, but it was like a big shed and everything. That's where we were going to do the show from. And, you know, he wasn't great, but he was talkative and jovial, but he'd lost all his mobility. So he had MND, did he? Yes. Oh, right. And, mate, he passed by the time we did the broadcast. No way. It was fantastic. Fast.

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360.963 - 372.458 Trevor Long

And he'd only been in a wheelchair for a short amount of time, I was told. So he went from here to here real quick. Well, I've heard of cases of that happening. I think it's remarkable how different it can be for different people. It is, mate. It's not the same for any two people.

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372.478 - 380.83 Stephen Fenech

What was the total period from your dad starting to have those leg issues? Nine months. That's not a lot. So it was March and he passed away in December. That's not a lot.

381.17 - 383.393 Trevor Long

When you look at Neil Danaher, it goes 13 years.

383.614 - 400.48 Stephen Fenech

Yeah. And others too, like Carl Webb had a memory. He used to play for the Cowboys. He had it for years as well. And he was younger, of course. My dad was in his 80s. Can you believe he was 84 when he got it? Yeah. And obviously his age went against him. And he didn't qualify for any of the drug trials or anything because he was just too old. Yeah.

400.5 - 420.489 Stephen Fenech

And also his respiratory had gone down pretty bad. So he didn't qualify for – he wasn't a viable candidate for the trials. Yeah. But there was a guy I interviewed before my segment on Sunday's 2GB Luke Grant show. I can't remember his name. He was an MND researcher doctor, and he was saying that it could – like you were saying, everyone's different.

420.99 - 448.219 Stephen Fenech

The fastest he had heard was diagnosis to dying was six weeks. Jesus. Someone went downhill that fast in six weeks, yet others like Neil Danaher, 13 years. Yeah, but, mate, what they've all got in common, they had the same thing, there's no cure. And they also raised the fact, this guy on 2GB on Luke's show was saying that There's no real government charter. You know, you talk about cancer.

Chapter 5: How does the discussion shift to the support for Jai Arrow?

689 - 702 Trevor Long

You give it all the information. Pump it into it. Give it everything. Even if it can suggest, why don't you look at this? Or have you thought of this? That would be a great start. You don't have to cure it for me, but can you tell us how to cure it?

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701.98 - 719.432 Stephen Fenech

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, my thoughts are with Jai and his family. He's got a young little daughter as well. So, mate, some tough times ahead, but hopefully he hangs in there as long as possible. You know what? You know what? Who knows? In the next year or two, there might be a cure. So hang in there, mate.

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719.452 - 730.269 Trevor Long

If in the worst case scenario, he loses his speech but keeps his mobility, he can spend a lot of time with that beautiful little girl and have some great moments and memories. Of course. That's what's to come.

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Chapter 6: What are the differences in experiences with motor neurone disease among individuals?

731.51 - 743.108 Trevor Long

Righto. We record on a Wednesday. This podcast comes out, if you're watching on YouTube, Thursday, otherwise Friday night. Put your kahunas on the line. Origin. Origin.

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743.088 - 752.38 Stephen Fenech

Who did you back? Who did I back? I thought the Maroons had the better team.

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752.861 - 755.845 Trevor Long

I was surprised to see the Odds are in New South Wales.

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755.865 - 761.552 Stephen Fenech

Yeah, I think it's home ground advantage. Yeah, I think Queensland always like to be the underdogs anyway.

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761.932 - 769.382 Trevor Long

Why did I just put money on based on your thoughts? Given the week that you helped me with my tips, I went like a bastard. By the way, last week, five out of five.

770.459 - 772.841 Stephen Fenech

Yeah, so you obviously tipped against South.

772.881 - 792.141 Trevor Long

Now, what I did is, yes. Home teams. So what on the footy tipping, which is ESPN's one, there's all these graphics and things that appear. But for each team, there's like a bar chart to show what percentage of people have tipped that team. So you can get a sense and you go, okay. But the thing is. That's why you did it. That's what I've been going by most of the time.

792.461 - 801.772 Trevor Long

But last week I went, you know what, I'm going to go with the odds. And the odds were listed as well. And I went, oh, that's not the same. That's not the same. Okay. So that helped me. I got five out of five. Odds are great.

802.233 - 805.978 Stephen Fenech

Still coming last. It was a split round, so you had less games, yeah.

Chapter 7: How do the hosts discuss the importance of awareness for MND?

1227.308 - 1230.912 Stephen Fenech

What else? Yeah, the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

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1230.932 - 1251.977 Trevor Long

Yeah, that's solid. So we've booked for the trip. We've kind of booked all the internal flights now to get through the first two and a half weeks, which is as long as Amanda's dad and Jackson are staying with us. Yep. So I basically got them in and out because we end up in Dallas for the Cowboys game. Because the JFK Museum is amazing. So we'll go back to that.

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1251.997 - 1252.778 Stephen Fenech

Yeah, I'd love to see that.

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1252.919 - 1268.444 Trevor Long

It's awesome. You've got to go. Anyway, so we do that. And then it's like Jackson and Phil leave. And then I said to Amanda, we've got to plan what we're going to do next. And she's like, yeah, it's in time. And then I said to Vivi, I said, listen, just go and Google Disney World Florida.

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1269.025 - 1269.085

Oh.

1269.065 - 1277.758 Trevor Long

So she goes to a desk. I'm in the dining room. And I hear this, oh, my God. And she's realized how fucking big it is. Because Disney World is apparently enormous, right?

1277.778 - 1278.559 Stephen Fenech

It's bigger than Disneyland, yeah.

1278.679 - 1279.921 Trevor Long

And she goes, it's like five.

1279.961 - 1281.323 Stephen Fenech

They've got Galaxy's Edge there, too.

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