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Two Hot Takes

219: Trip to the Edge.. Ft. Chris Klemens & Michaela Okland

Thu, 05 Jun 2025

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Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Chris Klemens and Michaela Okland!!! We put each other through the wringer on this ep! Crazy stories and vastly different takes on many of them.. Like is a low effort proposal still special!? Or do you divorce your wife if her daughters treat your child bad?! So many more good stories so buckle up and get ready to share your takes too!! Checkout Chris's new show! https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisvsThePeople Partners: Duluth Trading!! http://duluthtrading.com State Farm: Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with the Personal Price Plan! Bonus Content on Patreon including FREE episodes and the jolly rancher story with Chris!! : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/TwoHotTakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ MERCH HERE ! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.twohottakes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a letter? Our PO Box!! Two Hot Takes. 5042 Wilshire BLVD. #470. Los Angeles, CA 90036 WRITE IN TO US!!! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://reddit.app.link/twohottakes ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Full length Video episodes available on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoHotTakes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Index: 00:00 -- Start Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the crazy stories shared in this episode?

2.128 - 2.608

Okay, Familie.

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32.301 - 32.902 Michaela

Are we seated?

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32.942 - 39.807 Unknown Guest

I'm like filled with vengeance right now. I'm like, I wanna kill him. And you'll never know what I'm talking about.

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39.867 - 41.749 Michaela

Maybe it'll be in the bloopers someday.

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41.849 - 45.512 Unknown Guest

No, you can put it in. I said all that shit with my chest before publicly.

45.572 - 46.533 Michaela

He wants it to be in.

46.593 - 47.974 Unknown Guest

I know, I'm like, put it out there!

50.333 - 55.034 Michaela

Chris fühlt sich schmerzhaft. Stör den Pot.

55.094 - 58.535 Unknown Guest

Ich störe nicht einen Pot.

Chapter 2: Is a low-effort proposal still special?

1741.426 - 1749.068 Chris

Was I supposed to collect stories? Yeah, you're up next. Yeah, you're the next one. But I'll go first. No, I'm just kidding. Oh my god, I felt like I was in high school all over again.

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1749.108 - 1759.375 Unknown Guest

Jesus fucking Christ, that was so scary. I was like... Oh, I totally didn't do that. I was probably told about that.

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1759.395 - 1806.189 Chris

Okay, anyways, let's hear these. You guys, this is from r slash relationship advice. It's also a little vintage. It's a year old. And the title is my 33 female BFF 32 female ditched me on a vacation. We spent years planning after her boyfriend 30 male proposed on the first night of our vacation. Verdammt! It was kind of split 50-50, since this was supposed to be almost a two-month trip.

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1806.269 - 1822.633 Chris

I personally have been saving for years now. One thing to note is that Anne is fluent in the primary language of where we are vacationing, while I am not. I can talk to some city people enough to get by, but once I leave and the slang and dialect start popping in, I'm lost. It was just supposed to be me and Anne.

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1822.653 - 1837.417 Chris

However, a last-minute addition was made with her including her current boyfriend of three years. This was more or less dropped on me pretty much two weeks before we left. Ich war wirklich unglücklich mit dem, weil, naja, es hat viele Pläne verpasst. Aber ich habe ihn begrüßt, nachdem wir ein paar Dinge wiedergearbeitet haben.

1837.437 - 1856.047 Chris

Jedoch habe ich Anne mehrere Male und ihren Freund gesagt, dass diese Reise über uns geht, nicht Anne und ihren Freund. Die erste Nacht, als wir da waren, hat Mark zu einem Knie geschlagen, den Ring rausgezogen und sie gefragt, ihn zu heiraten. Since then, I feel like a third wheel who is no longer welcome on this trip. This has changed everything.

1856.087 - 1899.985 Chris

The trip is now basically about Anne and her new fiancé. Multiple times we had a lot of plans, including some stuff that was already paid for. And instead, she ended up ditching me to go spend time with Mark. Sie sagte, es sei gut, aber es sei wirklich nicht komfortabel. I tried to talk to her and she got really upset and told me this vacation isn't just about me. And that hurt a lot.

1900.025 - 1903.868 Unknown Guest

Well, yes, it isn't about you at all.

1904.048 - 1919.979 Chris

Now pretty much I'm going to be spending Christmas alone in a country where I don't speak the language. I got pretty emotional and asked her, WTF am I expected to do? She got really defensive and said it's just a week and we're here until early February. She'll meet up with me on New Year's, New Year's Eve or the day after.

Chapter 3: What are the travel tribulations discussed?

2946.593 - 2948.774 Unknown Guest

I forgot that there's always like comments and stuff.

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2948.835 - 2968.206 Michaela

But I do want to say like, I think proposals are one of those things that are really interesting for me. Because it's like, this proposal is about the person that's getting proposed to, right? So it should be what they want. Mhm. But at the same time, it's also what the other person wants and how they want to show the love and the care for that person.

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2968.246 - 2982.27 Michaela

So I hate to be like, well, the proposal is only about her. She should have gotten what she wanted. It's about them and their love. And this was thoughtful. I wanted to be in Monterey, where we first went on a date, where we first... Doing what we did on our first date.

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2982.29 - 2987.572 Unknown Guest

Like, that feels thought out to me. Like, yeah, did he not pick the Airbnb? Sure.

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2987.912 - 3006.037 Michaela

Ich weiß, die Leute schreien wahrscheinlich, wenn du hier seit Beginn bist. Es gibt eine Geschichte, die Justin und ich hatten. Und es war so, dass dieses Paar sich engagiert hat. Und es war so, dass sie in ihrem Apartment waren und überall Kugeln gesetzt haben. Und das war ihr Vorschlag. Und ich war so, ein Apartment mit Kugeln? Bin ich jetzt auf der anderen Seite von dem jetzt?

3006.057 - 3020.721 Michaela

Ich bin mehr wie in dem unerwarteten romantischen Boot, wo es so ist, was du willst, für jeden ihrer eigenen. Wenn 100 Kugeln in deinem Apartment ist, was du willst, mach es. Unfortunately, this isn't what she wants and I'm scared to get into the comments, but here we go.

3020.781 - 3022.926 Unknown Guest

Yeah, I'm really interested to see what the comments say.

3024.0 - 3068.607 Michaela

So, top comment. Das ist ein ziemlich großes Problem. Deine Freundin ist nicht traurig über den Vorschlag. Sie ist traurig, dass du sie nicht gut genug kennst, um zu wissen, was sie wollte, auch wenn sie das nicht artikulieren kann. Das ist, was sie expressiert. Dass du sie nicht gut genug kennst, um etwas zu tun, was sie eigentlich mögen würde.

3068.667 - 3073.65 Michaela

Oder vielleicht, dass du es wusste und einfach nicht gewählt hast. This is like intense. It takes that...

Chapter 4: How should you handle family vacation disagreements?

4011.119 - 4017.102 Chris

But at the end of the day, I'm just like, I don't know. I just don't think it is that deep. But again, I'm not like someone who...

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4018.348 - 4024.57 Michaela

I can see both sides. It's not that deep. It's dress up. It's her having fun. They both wanted her to get a fake ring.

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4024.63 - 4032.552 Unknown Guest

Let's say she got a Birkin. He gave her a real Birkin. A black Birkin, silver hardware.

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4032.572 - 4033.812 Michaela

Just a classic.

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4033.892 - 4042.795 Unknown Guest

And she's like, I'm going on a trip. I don't want to ruin this one. So I'm going to get a fake Birkin. And she gets the Himalayan Crocodile. But it's fake.

4042.835 - 4044.816 Michaela

But it's... That's not her saying...

4046.496 - 4047.237 Unknown Guest

Yeah. Yeah.

4064.415 - 4066.896 Chris

No, I do think that that's exactly what her mindset was.

4066.916 - 4086.064 Unknown Guest

She's just like, wow, how fun it'll be to have a fat rock on my hand. Not, I need a fat rock, but like, wow, how fun. I bought a fucking fake engagement ring off TikTok because I'm like, how fun to have an engagement ring. But it's just like, it's like buying a wig. It's like, I don't hate my hair. I just sometimes want to play around.

Chapter 5: What do you do when a friend ditches you on vacation?

4659.301 - 4669.858 Chris

I mean, I feel like that might be a lot of the time why people don't give updates, if things have gotten really emotional. I don't know. This doesn't seem relationship ending. He just needs to speak.

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4670.659 - 4673.2 Unknown Guest

I don't know. If I were her, I'd get the fuck out.

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4673.26 - 4675.561 Chris

Oh, if he handles every disagreement like this.

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4675.641 - 4690.909 Unknown Guest

If this is how he's handling fucking cubic zirconium, we are cooked, dude. I mean, what's he gonna do when she finds out she took Plan B or something? I mean, God, he might... I don't know. I'm so tired of hearing

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4693.653 - 4709.132 Michaela

Well. You're like, well, here we go. Let me see what I have for you. Any dogs? Okay, let me see what I got. Okay, I think I'm going to give you guys a choice on this last one.

4709.252 - 4710.474 Unknown Guest

Oh my god, we got a choice?

4710.799 - 4726.522 Michaela

A choice or a coin flip. You can put it to either. Option number one. Am I the asshole for canceling the entire vacation when I found out that my stepdaughters deliberately hid my daughter's passport to get her to stay home?

4728.323 - 4729.243 Unknown Guest

Oh my god.

4729.323 - 4739.305 Michaela

Option two. I'm gonna have an answer. Am I overreacting? Husband says me taking a bath on vacation is unreasonable.

Chapter 8: How to navigate group dynamics while traveling?

1330.344 - 1334.008 Michaela

I'm terrible. If a person wakes me up, I get mean. I get crabby.

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1334.068 - 1336.751 Unknown Guest

I wasn't awake to know I did.

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1337.512 - 1363.341 Unknown Guest

Und ich dachte, was meinst du? Und sie meinte, du hast mich in den Gesicht geschlagen. Und ich dachte, was? Well, that wasn't me.

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1363.761 - 1364.802 Michaela

That is so unlike you.

1364.882 - 1367.985 Unknown Guest

Yeah, right? I would usually punch my brother in the face.

1368.125 - 1380.556 Michaela

This is why you need to use alarm clocks, people. It's safer. Moving past this, I feel like I need to put a poll, though, to the people to be like, do you guys sleep with blackout curtains? And would you rather have an alarm clock? I don't know.

1380.576 - 1383.639 Unknown Guest

What time do you wake up with blackout curtains?

1384.921 - 1386.922 Michaela

I set my alarm for 9am.

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