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Chapter 1: What lengths do moms go to for their daughters' sorority bids?
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Chapter 2: How do moms influence the sorority recruitment process?
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Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life, with your hosts, me, Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, you guys. Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. I am Jen Fessler, and today we're jumping into part two of Moms Gone Wild. So this time, we're actually talking about moms in a little bit of a different way.
What lengths will moms go to in order to get their daughter into the top sorority? I'm a little scared of this episode, you guys. I'm scared of thinking back and thinking, what did I do to try to help Rachel get into the right sorority? So I just remember Rush costing me a lot of money, too much money, and not feeling like I could really say no to Rachel.
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Chapter 3: What are some outrageous gifts moms give during rush?
I love the name Paige, yes. Thank you for joining us here at Dirty Rush. Yes, thank you for having me. So my... My story is a little bit interesting. So I was on a recruitment team for a school in Arizona. And at this school, the moms definitely went a little bit wild when it came time for their daughters to go through recruitment.
So we would often as a recruitment team actually get gifts from the moms personally. For example, cookies, brownies, popsicles, stickers. And not only were they just gifts, but the gifts had their child's name and face printed on them. Oh my, come on. So they would literally like scout out the houses. I've never heard of this. Yeah, literally craziest thing ever.
They would scout out the houses during work week, like, the week before rush. And whenever they had, like, they thought, like, a split second to, like, if someone were to be walking out, they would run out of their cars with all of these gifts and be like, oh, my God, yeah, like... My daughter, Kaylee, for example, is so excited to come see your house.
Hopefully next week, like here's... Paige, I'm going to puke a little bit in my mouth.
Yeah.
Wait, I hope you're... Did your mother do this? Because I'm going to feel bad talking like this. No, absolutely not. My mother would never in a million years. Okay, because I am going to throw up a little bit. You're telling me this is a true story.
Yes.
They would actually try to give you gifts to... Wow, that falls under the category of get a life. Get a life, yes. It was just like the craziest thing. Like it wasn't even like the kids themselves. It was literally the moms that were like just so excited and honestly like not even like ashamed of it, which I thought was the craziest thing ever.
And then like as a recruitment team, like we were not to be accepting these gifts at all. So we'd kind of like just take it and then like literally throw it away. And if anything, it was like, weird. Like we were not like happy or like uncomfortable. I mean, did it influence the way you like looked at the recruits? Like, I think it like kind of like subconsciously. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How do rush coaches impact the recruitment experience?
Because I'm like, your literal mom is here trying to like buy us with these $2 brownies and Bundt cakes. Like this is so, so desperate, like awful. Wow. Craziest thing. Yeah. Yeah. So funny. When I talk to you guys, I always feel so much better about my parenting. I was a really good mom. I didn't give anyone ā I never gave anybody a gift or anything. Literally the weirdest thing.
Maybe her teachers back in elementary school. I don't know. But good Christmas gifts. That's weird and wackadoo. So weird. Oddest thing I've ever seen. Did it happen a lot? Honestly, like more than you would expect. That is crazy. The vast majority, like no. But there was definitely like a pretty big group of ā like new members that were buying gifts and bringing gifts.
I wonder if their daughters even knew about it. Honestly, probably not, right? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. If I ever told my daughter I was going to drop off a gift to the recruitment chair, I can't even imagine. No, I would be like, mom, no. Like you're making this worse for me. And also like have a little faith in me, mom. Like I don't want you to bribe people.
Like if they don't want me, then maybe I don't belong there. Totally. It's the craziest thing. Yeah. Well, that's a really good story, Paige. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Chapter 5: What are the pros and cons of hiring a rush coach?
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Chapter 6: How does peer pressure affect sorority recruitment?
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Hi. Hi, Sarah. Hi, Jen. I'm a huge fan. I love doing high fives.
Yes.
Oh my God. That's so nice. Thank you so much. You are the peacemaking queen. I love you. I didn't really work, but I tried. All right. So Sarah, you are an SMU girly. Yes, I am. Yes, you are. All right. So tell us a little bit about Crazy Moms at SMU. What did they do? Oh, well, let me tell you, majority of the girls' moms got them what we call a rush coat. Oh God, we did this. Yep.
Sarah, we did a whole episode on this when we first started the pod. It was, well, I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off. My opinion on it was, was pretty harsh, but please go on. Well, basically, these moms would pay lots of money for their daughters to get sort of trained on what to say during SMU Rush, which I don't know if you know is a really...
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Chapter 7: What ethical dilemmas arise in sorority recruitment?
really difficult. Yeah, I know. And these coaches would sort of train you on what to say what not to say, almost like these girls are reading a script rather than, you know, having a genuine conversation. I want to say about, you know, 50% of the girls all got a breast coach. Well, I don't know, we spoke to these coaches.
they charge thousands of dollars, thousands, not hundreds, thousands, right?
Oh yeah.
And I felt kind of badly because, you know, speaking to the actual coaches, they, you know, they felt good about what they were doing as they should. And they felt like it was almost like preparing for a job interview and, and they, they really helped these girls. So, you know, I hate to be judgy, but I tend to be judgy. So I don't know.
I just, I would say like, if my kid asked me for thousands of dollars for a rush coach, I think I would say, well, I don't think rushing is for you. If you're, if we're that desperate that we have to spend thousands of dollars to get someone to tell us what to say and what to wear, maybe not so much.
Exactly.
And, you know, for the other 50% of the girls, you know, who didn't have a rush coach, I almost felt like their experience was way more fun. They met more people. They were a lot more open. I feel like the idea of having the rush coach was almost a lot more pressure for sure. Yeah. And could you tell, you think, like when someone had a coach and when they didn't? Oh, for sure. Really?
Why?
Just because it was like, like I said earlier, it was almost like talking to someone who had like a script in the back of their mind. Right. They were just going off, you know, what, you know, the stretch coach told them to say rather than, you know, having an actual conversation. Right. Right. Wow. Listen, again, I mean, I try in life not to be judgy, but I find myself judging.
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Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from moms acting crazy during rush?
All right, guys, so next we have Gemma. Hi, Gemma. Hi, thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming to Dirty Rush. Okay, so my story about Moms Gone Wild doesn't have to do with my own mom. My mom is really not a helicopter parent. She was pretty chill about grades and getting it, and she just wanted me to go to the best school that I wanted to get into. It was never... Intense.
Intense. Right. And with the whole sorority thing, she was in Greek life, but she wasn't super pushy about me being in Greek life or not. Like my sister dropped out of her sorority sophomore year and she was totally fine with it. Like just always kind of wanted us to do our own thing and be happy with whatever our choices were. Love that.
But during college, I tutored for this pretty well-off and elite college. LA family that had very high expectations. And the mom was definitely like manager of the house and particularly was very invested in her daughter and her daughter getting into certain colleges, the best colleges she could get into. You were tutoring. This is while you were in college? While I was in college.
So I went to school in LA. Okay. So, okay. Got it. And I tutored her throughout her high school year. So I started when I was a freshman, and she was a sophomore. So by the time I was a senior, she was in her freshman year at USC. Okay. This mom, I tutored her throughout, like, with writing, reading, helped her with her college essays.
Like, at a moment's notice, the mom would call me and I would hop on a Zoom and help her daughter with anything. I mean, they paid me a very pretty penny. I was going to say, I hope they paid you well. Oh, very well. But I was pretty much at their disposal all the time. And then I was heavily involved in my sorority.
And she she eventually got into USC and I was very heavily involved in recruitment at my school at UCLA. And she so I didn't have anything to do with USC, but I coached her through her. Like the next best thing after getting into college was that the mom really wanted her daughter to get into a good sorority. So she was like, do anything you can.
Was a daughter that into it or was it more the mother? I think she definitely was. She definitely really wanted to, especially at a school... like USC where it's pretty high pressure. And I think the social, just social life at USC, I think it's just like at another tier, you've just like a lot of wealth and there's a lot like Greek life is very intense there.
They're very into their alumni and their sports. And so it's just like at another level that I don't think USC or UCLA operates on. Right. So I think that she wanted it, but I think the mom wanted it more. Okay. And she was like, Take her through Zoom lessons. Tell her what she needs to say. What would get her into a sorority? What does she need to have her Instagram look like?
What are the outfits? I'll pay whatever. We just want to get this done.
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