I’m catching up with Ryan Walsh at PAX8 Beyond to talk venue vibes, partner trust, and what their latest SMB Pulse Report reveals about real-world AI adoption, spend, and results for small businesses. We unpack why so many AI projects get stuck in pilot mode, what MSPs are missing, and how to move fast with secure agents that clients can actually trust. This conversation starts with the shift from Denver to Salt Lake City and why the new convention center layout changes the feel of the entire event. Ryan and I talk about the opening ceremony, where the energy hit, where it dragged, and how seriously PAX8 takes survey data, direct partner conversations, and even the uncomfortable feedback when something doesn’t work. We then dig into the SMB Pulse Report, which combines PAX8 marketplace data, partner insights, and external research to track how small businesses are adopting generative AI, where they’re spending, and why returns are lagging. The data shows strong adoption and increased spend, but also stalled pilots, low trust in agents, and a big gap between time saved and profit realized—exactly where MSPs can step in with security, governance, data quality, and tightly integrated workflows. We also talk about emerging AI-native competitors, the importance of owning the “last mile” to the customer, and why vendors and MSPs alike need to be customer zero so they can confidently deploy secure, reliable agents at scale. === Chapters 00:24 Venue Impressions and Conference Flow 04:06 Opening Ceremony Reactions 08:22 Feedback Culture and Trust 12:56 SMB Pulse Report Findings 20:48 AI Adoption and Partner Strategy 23:06 Winning the First Agent 26:30 Vendors Must Become Customer Zero === Guest: Ryan Walsh, Pax8 Website: https://www.pax8.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanmwalsh1/ === Companies / Vendors / Products / Books PAX8: https://www.pax8.com Gaylord (venue): https://www.gaylordhotels.com ConnectWise: https://www.connectwise.com Canadian Federation of Independent Business: https://www.cfib-fcei.ca IDC (International Data Corporation): https://www.idc.com McKinsey & Company: https://www.mckinsey.com Omni Hotel (Fort Lauderdale convention hotel): https://www.omnihotels.com === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

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