We dig into how their MSP quietly turned into a “ticket factory” where work piled up, documentation was thin, and a 20‑year employee held way too much tribal knowledge. From there, Dawn and Dave break down the specific steps they took to fix it: rebuilding processes, enforcing documentation standards, killing weak level one roles, focusing on root cause analysis, and putting real accountability around metrics like reopen rates and first‑time resolution. By the end, you’ll hear a practical roadmap for turning chaos into a more predictable, proactive IT services operation. Why Listen Learn how to move beyond “ticket counts” and start tracking metrics that actually improve service, like reopen rates and first‑touch resolution. Hear how they used root cause analysis on every ticket to permanently reduce recurring issues instead of just closing the same problems over and over. See why they removed weak level one roles and shifted to an experienced‑engineer model to improve client satisfaction and reduce internal friction. Chapters 00:00 Welcome, why this episode is more of a hangout 02:10 Dawn & Dave arrive in “the land south of Orlando” and first impressions 05:20 Miami flight story, travel quirks, and meeting Iggy the Iguana 09:45 Enable Empower event and Dawn’s packed “ticket factory” session 13:30 The terrible year: losing a 20‑year employee and uncovering the mess 18:40 House of cards: tribal knowledge, weak processes, and no visibility 24:55 Accountability as the word of the year and culture shake‑up 30:20 Turning a ticket factory into an intelligence engine with root cause on every ticket 36:10 Rebuilding documentation, change management, and standards the team actually uses 43:30 Eliminating level ones, client reactions, and lessons for MSP owners Guests Dawn Sizer, 3rd Element Consulting: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-sizer/ Dave Sizer, 3rd Element Consulting: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-sizer/ Website: https://3rdelementconsulting.com/ Companies / Vendors / Products Mentioned N-Able Empower Conference: https://empower.n-able.com/ EOS: https://www.eosworldwide.com/ Omni Fort Lauderdale Hotel: https://www.omnihotels.com/hotels/fort-lauderdale === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.

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