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UNspoiled! The Dresden Files

Twelve Months, Chapters 40-42

01 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What chapters of the Dresden Files are covered in this episode?

2.326 - 31.8 Natasha

This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is unspoiled, covering the Dresden Files, book 18, 12 months, chapters 40 through 42. That's right, kids. If you're reading along, it's all fucked up now because I decided to do a live read. I promise I'll fix it and all will be well. In these chapters, we have more protesters.

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32.04 - 44.852 Natasha

We have chats with all of these gargoyles explaining who they are and the role that they will play. We have Molly visiting. We have a chat with Lara. There's lots and lots.

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45.193 - 45.613 Rashawn

Yeah.

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45.633 - 47.715 Natasha

Visit from Ramirez. Yeah.

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48.656 - 51.158 Rashawn

It's weird because these were short, too. I'm sorry.

51.178 - 55.182 Natasha

Yes. Welcome to Unspoiled.

65.641 - 87.953 Unknown

We'll be right back.

92.54 - 95.824 Natasha

Welcome to the show, everyone. I am Natasha.

95.864 - 98.428 Rashawn

And I'm Rashawn. I got a little overexcited.

Chapter 2: How do the protests impact Harry and the narrative?

117.131 - 119.414 Natasha

How did you feel about them?

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120.956 - 152.035 Rashawn

Well... The fucking gargoyle introduction round was everything you wanted it to be and a little bit more. Maggie out here answering the questions that I had myself personally. Do they turn to stone in the sunlight like that old show? Do they indeed? I mean, it was the way that Basil is just like, they can climb on me. after Harry has been like, no, no, no, no, no. They're here to work.

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152.055 - 154.538 Rashawn

They're not here for play. They're not playground equipment.

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155.359 - 156.961 Natasha

I love that so much.

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Chapter 3: What role do the gargoyles play in the story?

157.081 - 159.184 Natasha

It was just being like, we like children.

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159.685 - 160.426 Rashawn

The fuck?

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Chapter 4: How does Molly's character evolve in these chapters?

160.446 - 186.126 Rashawn

Even though they, sometimes they don't make any sense. We still find them quite, you know, entertaining. This, and then, um, I mean, there's just a lot of good stuff. The stuff with Molly at box. Yeah. Um, uh, Ramirez popping up, the showdown with the wardens, Lara. It was some pretty good fucking solid chapters.

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186.406 - 187.147 Unknown

Yeah, I agree.

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187.167 - 192.473 Rashawn

The saying goodbye to Murphy, Shade Murphy. We should have a special name for the Murphy Shade.

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193.254 - 199.802 Unknown

Maid. No. No. Ma-raid. Uh... Sherfy.

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200.203 - 211.751 Rashawn

Sherfy. That's it. Sharon. Shade Karen is Sharon. Oh my god. No, that'll just get too... It's just confusing.

211.771 - 213.334 Natasha

Yeah, that's too confusing.

213.354 - 235.567 Rashawn

Because there's already a Sharon, right? Where Mira is, right? So, oh my God. What? I'm just thinking about how funny it is that he went from a Sharon Rodriguez to a Karen Murphy to now a Sharon Murphy. Was he just trying to rebuild Sharon this whole time? His one true love? Is that what this all has been about?

236.308 - 238.892 Natasha

You mean Susan? Are you talking about Susan Rodriguez?

238.912 - 241.235 Rashawn

Oh, her name is Susan Rodriguez. That's right. So there are no Sharons.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of the soul gaze with Lara?

662.626 - 663.888 Unknown

Right.

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665.03 - 691.42 Rashawn

And how bad she feels. And luckily, Harry... I guess because he understands, you know, about how the rules work and that, you know, but like a different person could have been so much more shitty about this, you know, even though Molly couldn't do anything about it. Um, a different person would have been like, you know what, Molly, fuck you. How about that? Fuck you.

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692.762 - 699.992 Rashawn

You should have found a way to tell me you should have figured something out. You should have, could have, would have, you know, he doesn't do any of that.

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701.103 - 729.586 Natasha

Yeah. I appreciate that he has enough experience in Winter to really know for sure that there's only so much that she can do because I think that somebody on the outside may not have been as – they may not have believed her. you know, and thought like, well, there was probably something, but the way she phrases it, she forbid me from communicating with you about it directly or indirectly.

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729.626 - 738.418 Natasha

That's pretty fucking, that's covering every single base that you could try and like get around it with. So, yeah.

739.7 - 764.407 Rashawn

She also mentions that, uh, she's been having more and more conversations with Mab over the years. And she was like, I need you to understand that she's fucking really, really fucking smart. And she says, have you considered the notion that she might be the one around here with the brains and perspective that no one else has? She might be trying to look after you. She might even be right.

766.27 - 772.217 Rashawn

And Harriet's like, there's no right here. Because he's stuck in the, I basically took

772.923 - 801.85 Rashawn

enthralled someone against their will kind of against my own will as well and that's like a hard line and a sad for him um but Molly is like well it is kind of better that you are in control rather than Lara being the one that's in control you can at least admit that and she also says well I'm grateful if you you know if for nothing else I'm grateful that you're the one that's in control and not Lara um

802.319 - 817.663 Rashawn

And Harry is like, you agree with Mab? Kind of, I want to say chuffed. But that's a weird word because it goes both ways. It's one of the ones that goes both ways. Does it? You can be happy about something or be kind of pissed off about it.

Chapter 6: How does Harry confront his feelings about control and manipulation?

1605.633 - 1633.382 Rashawn

I'd never, I never have. I'm sorry. And then, uh, she clarifies to Harry. It was my first mission for winter. There was a misunderstanding, uh, Carlos was there for something else. There was a misunderstanding and he got hurt. And then Carlos says, it's my own fault. I'll be more cautious in the future. Which I was like, should I get back on that?

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1633.682 - 1635.866 Natasha

No, I think it's the opposite.

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1636.466 - 1637.288 Rashawn

It made me laugh.

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1637.308 - 1654.812 Natasha

Because when he says, I'll be more cautious in the future. Oh, Molly said in a much smaller voice. He gave her a rueful smile. My gut says it's for the best. So I think it's him being like, yeah, I'm not fucking around with you again.

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1654.972 - 1668.832 Rashawn

Oh, no, he definitely is never doing that again. But I laughed when he said, I'll be more cautious in the future. Because my first reading of it was just like, oh, shit, he's scared. But no, he's definitely scared.

1668.972 - 1696.267 Natasha

I felt bad for Molly. Like, you know... I feel like she was really hoping that maybe they would be able to, like, pick things up again. I feel like she was sad here when he said, be more cautious in the future. Like, yeah, I'm not doing that again. I think maybe there was a part of her that thought, you know, I don't know. Yeah.

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Yeah.

1697.268 - 1698.83 Natasha

It must be very lonely.

1698.85 - 1726.11 Rashawn

Yeah, when he says, I'll be more cautious in the future, and she says that, oh, in a much smaller voice, I thought that it was this sort of sudden realization that Carlos views her as something dangerous. And that was like, I don't want to say hurt her feelings, but kind of like hurt her feelings, like, oh...

Chapter 7: What are the implications of Harry's relationship with Lara?

1922.683 - 1949.616 Rashawn

And he was just like, Oh yeah. It started up old, old fears and anger. And he has to do some breathing exercises because he's triggered. He's really triggered. Like it's having like a flashback kind of deal. And the mantle doesn't help. And everything, those feelings are so intense. And yeah, he says, there's no protection from the memories and the emotions they brought in my head.

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1949.676 - 1957.264 Rashawn

The five wardens turned into bowling pins and I had to fight to keep from summing up a sphere of pure kinetic energy and hurling it at them.

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1957.784 - 1959.826 Natasha

That cracks me up so bad.

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1960.106 - 1966.693 Rashawn

Isn't that a funny visual to think of? Just, like, bowling them down the street.

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1966.733 - 1971.098 Natasha

All of a sudden, they turn into bowling pins. I'm like, what is this, Looney Tunes? What's going on here?

1973.9 - 1985.192 Rashawn

And then they, yeah, they get to the store and is it Ileana? Yeah, Ileana. Ileana.

1987.298 - 2010.964 Natasha

Yeah, she is the one also that came up on the roof when, like, alone, and Harry was shirtless, and she was looking at him like, ew, you're so gross, even though she obviously was, like, into it. Yeah, I can very much sympathize with being like, I should really not find you attractive. This is so inconvenient.

2011.144 - 2023.041 Rashawn

It's really, really messing up my whole day. So she comes up and she's just like, stand aside. This is no concern of yours. Agree to disagree.

2023.101 - 2036.627 Natasha

The fact that she just says stand aside, you don't think that's going to work, right? You have to know that's not going to work. She has to say it. She has to say it. You know.

Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude regarding Harry's choices?

2898.041 - 2902.527 Rashawn

And why do you think you would be able to see them? Again, do you know who I am?

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2902.967 - 2903.248 Unknown

Yeah.

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2903.588 - 2932.977 Rashawn

And then she snaps her fingers and all of a sudden there's like laughter and and shadows moving around in all the side streets and across the street, and it looks like goblins, and Ileana looks at Molly, looks around, and then her face turns red, and she just... Somebody else, I think another warden, calls her name to be like, we gotta go. Mm-hmm.

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2933.834 - 2962.525 Natasha

I just love because like okay forgive me everybody but you know there's that little John song snap your fingers do you know the song I know I'll know it snap your fingers do your step you can do it all by yourself let me see you do it let me see you do it and I just really enjoy that he says you can see it all by yourself because you can do it all by yourself because she's like by herself but the whole thing is that she's pretending that she's not and there's a bunch of goblins there

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2962.842 - 2985.238 Natasha

and i personally like instantly was like oh she's using her illusion good me too harry later is like did you really bring goblins i'm like harry come on you know her by now right yeah but i think that's more for the benefit of the reader probably yeah i um i like i knew this i was like oh this is this is molly doing her thing um

2985.792 - 3012.214 Rashawn

Because I don't believe that she would, A, travel with goblins. But also, I don't believe she felt like she needed to have an escort for this day that she's out with Harry. You know, she can take care of herself. I am curious how much the wardens understand about Molly and what she can do. you know.

3012.875 - 3031.493 Rashawn

Not just, even before she was the Winter Lady, but when she was his apprentice and kind of like they were at one point threatening to kill her, right, for what she had done. And Harry had to sort of intercede on her behalf. Because Ileana doesn't

3033.025 - 3049.971 Rashawn

challenge like Molly on this she doesn't go I don't believe they're really there like I know about you I know about your magic I know about your illusionary magic she's just like we should probably go I think the smile Molly is giving her factors in

3050.626 - 3060.088 Natasha

This bitch is crazy. Look at her face. We don't need to play and see if she's telling the truth or not. Let's not push it.

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