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Boulder Attack Latest, Ukraine and Russia Talks, South Korea Election

Tue, 03 Jun 2025

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The man arrested in Colorado for an attack on people demonstrating in support of Israeli hostages being held by Hamas is facing a federal hate crime charge and multiple felonies. A second round of talks between Russia and Ukraine did not result in a ceasefire but the two countries did agree to a new prisoner swap. And, following months of political turmoil South Koreans are voting for a new president. Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Eric Whitney, Ryland Barton, Kevin Drew, Lisa Thomson and Adriana Gallardo. It was produced by Ziad Buchh, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Zo van Ginhoven and our technical director is Carleigh Strange. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What happened in the Boulder attack?

2.472 - 25.706 A. Martinez

A man accused of throwing Molotov cocktails at Colorado demonstrators says he planned the attack. For a year, he says he waited until after his Dodgers graduation strike. What else have police learned about the suspect? I'm E. Martinez, that is Steve Inskeep, and this is Up First from NPR News. Ukrainians have a demand in peace talks. They want Russia to send back children abducted during the war.

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26.087 - 31.45 Hristina Shkudor

The biggest challenge is that Russia is not willing to return those kids back.

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31.877 - 51.077 Steve Inskeep

Also, South Koreans vote for a new president today. The last person they elected tried to impose martial law. Lawmakers promptly impeached him. So how are voters thinking about the aftermath? NPR is where the news is, and our colleague Anthony Kuhn is in Seoul. Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day.

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58.407 - 66.632 Steve Inskeep

The man arrested for throwing firebombs at people in Boulder, Colorado, says he, quote, wanted to kill Zionist people and that he'd do it again.

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66.652 - 78.619 A. Martinez

Authorities say Mohamed Sabri Suleiman threw Molotov cocktails at people marching in support of Israeli hostages held by Hamas in Gaza. He's now facing a federal hate crime charge and multiple felonies.

78.979 - 86.484 Steve Inskeep

Colorado Public Radio's Alison Sherry is covering this story. Good morning. Hello, Steve. Who is the person who made that statement?

Chapter 2: Who is the suspect in the Boulder attack?

87.628 - 108.531 Alison Sherry

We know he's 45 years old. He's an Egyptian national who lived in Kuwait for almost 20 years before coming to the U.S. three years ago on a tourist visa. According to the Department of Homeland Security, that visa has since expired, but he says he had requested asylum and that was pending. He didn't have legal status, though.

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109.031 - 111.032 Steve Inskeep

Well, do authorities know if he acted alone?

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111.873 - 134.664 Alison Sherry

That's what police believe so far, at least. He told them he'd been planning the attack for a year and that he told no one about it. He actually waited for his high school daughter's graduation and then did it. He had five children and a wife. He lived in Colorado Springs. He left them a journal and a phone with messages for them. And the feds on Monday say they've talked to 44 people,

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136.045 - 153.129 Alison Sherry

searched the house and digital devices, but we don't have much information about what they've found yet. Mr. Suleiman also tried to buy a gun late last year, but he wasn't able to because of his immigration status. So he learned on YouTube how to make Molotov cocktails and use those in the attack.

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153.489 - 158.27 Steve Inskeep

I guess authorities also have this statement that he has made. What does that tell you about him?

159.136 - 182.915 Alison Sherry

In the state affidavit that was unsealed Monday afternoon, he said he was planning to kill himself, that he had doused himself in gasoline, but he obviously didn't do that. He also only threw two of his 18 incendiary devices that he made, and he stopped because he says he hadn't ever hurt anyone. But we also know that police arrived very quickly, and he was arrested within a few minutes.

183.416 - 187.079 Alison Sherry

And there were people there also trying to intervene almost immediately.

187.099 - 192.783 Steve Inskeep

Right. Did authorities know about this person or about his intent beforehand?

193.723 - 210.196 Alison Sherry

No, he wasn't on the radar of the feds or the Joint Terrorism Task Force here. And on the other side of this, Boulder police told me they weren't providing any security for the local members of the Run for Their Lives group who were marching Sunday because they hadn't asked for it.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Boulder attack?

272.765 - 300.763 Steve Inskeep

And I guess we should mention when you say the higher number of victims, authorities have added four to the number of people injured. The original number was eight. Thanks so much. Really appreciate your help. Thanks, Steve. That's Allison Sherry of Colorado Public Radio. Ceasefire talks between Ukraine and Russia in Istanbul ended quickly with no ceasefire.

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300.983 - 305.026 Steve Inskeep

That's no surprise, although Ukraine used the occasion to make a dramatic demand.

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305.246 - 311.671 A. Martinez

Yeah, Ukraine gave Russia a list of Ukrainian children abducted during the war, asking for them to be returned home immediately.

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311.871 - 315.894 Steve Inskeep

NPR's Joanna Kakissis, our correspondent in Kyiv, is following this. Hey there, Joanna.

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316.455 - 316.975 Joanna Kakissis

Hey, Steve.

317.095 - 319.137 Steve Inskeep

Who are these kids and what is the evidence they were taken?

Chapter 4: What was discussed in the Ukraine-Russia talks?

320.063 - 335.231 Joanna Kakissis

Well, Ukrainian researchers have documented that nearly 20,000 Ukrainian children were abducted during the Russian invasion and occupation of some parts of Ukraine and then taken to Russia. I spoke to Hristina Shkudor, who advocates for these abducted children and their families.

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335.651 - 347.257 Hristina Shkudor

The biggest challenge is that Russia is not willing to return those kids back. They even don't want to tell how many of them are right now in Russian Federation.

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347.768 - 352.83 Joanna Kakissis

So in Istanbul, the Ukrainian delegation brought up these missing kids and pushed Russia to give them back.

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352.991 - 356.652 Steve Inskeep

And the researchers have names. They've got backgrounds. They've got information.

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Chapter 5: What evidence supports the abduction of Ukrainian children?

357.053 - 364.156 Joanna Kakissis

Yes, they have names, backgrounds. Some of them are from orphanages. Some of them are from families. So, yeah, there's documentation for many of these children.

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364.536 - 366.517 Steve Inskeep

How did the Russians respond to the demand?

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Chapter 6: How many children have been abducted in Ukraine?

366.957 - 391.617 Joanna Kakissis

Well, according to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the Russians did not react well. Here's Zelensky speaking in Lithuania on Tuesday. He's saying that Russia claimed the Ukrainians were using this issue to pander to the West, to childless European grandmothers in particular. Zelensky did add that at least the Russians now admit to taking Ukrainian children.

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391.957 - 405.708 Joanna Kakissis

In Istanbul, Ukraine gave the Russians a list of 400 children to be returned immediately as part of these talks. Now, Russia said it would consider returning 10 of them and added that they did not abduct the children, but rather saved them from a war zone.

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405.908 - 416.137 Steve Inskeep

Okay, so no big breakthrough on ceasefire talks. How is this situation different from last month when each side did swap 1,000 prisoners of war?

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Chapter 7: What demands did Ukraine make regarding abducted children?

417.113 - 438.818 Joanna Kakissis

Well, so this prisoner exchange agreed to yesterday is set to include as many POWs like 1,000, but with priority given to those who are wounded and sick, as well as young soldiers, those between the ages of 18 and 25. Zelensky, who did not participate in the talks but was briefed on them, said 200 Ukrainian civilians imprisoned in Russia might also be released.

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438.878 - 444.76 Steve Inskeep

Okay, so some adults at least are going back and forth to their home sides. Did the two sides agree on anything else yesterday?

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445.56 - 452.181 Joanna Kakissis

So, no, exactly not. As you mentioned earlier, not a ceasefire, but the two countries did agree to exchange the bodies of soldiers killed in action.

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452.281 - 467.705 Steve Inskeep

I want to follow up on another thing that we've been reporting on this week, Joanna. Ukraine, of course, conducted this covert operation. Drones hit military bases deep inside Russia. Technologically impressive, operationally impressive. Why is it also really meaningful for Ukrainians?

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Chapter 8: What challenges does Ukraine face in retrieving abducted children?

468.579 - 487.971 Joanna Kakissis

Ukraine says it took out a third of Russia's bombers using drones smuggled in on trucks to Russian airfields as far away as Siberia. And though Western weapons have certainly helped Ukraine, it's innovative operations like this that have helped the country punch above its weight against Russia, which is much larger and better resourced.

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488.291 - 501.237 Joanna Kakissis

And Zelensky says he believes the latest operation will actually force Russia to the negotiating table. So it's an important symbolic victory for Ukrainians, and it's also something that could bring Russia to the negotiating table.

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501.437 - 521.245 Steve Inskeep

Okay, and the Russians at least showed up, although didn't agree on too much yet. Joanna, thanks. You're welcome. That's NPR's Joanna Kakisis. Polls will soon close in South Korea, where the country is voting in a snap election for a new president.

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521.607 - 529.234 A. Martinez

That's what South Koreans do when a president tries to overturn the Constitution. The former president was impeached for declaring martial law and is now out of office.

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529.434 - 537.841 Steve Inskeep

NPR's Anthony Kuhn has been talking with voters and is in Seoul. Hey there, Anthony. Good morning, Steve. Okay, so how important is that very recent history in this election?

538.956 - 557.408 Anthony Kuhn

Well, the martial law crisis turned many people against the ruling party, and it opened a rift within the ruling party between politicians who supported martial law and those who opposed it. We spoke to Chae Soo-ji, who is 43 and with her young son, and she says she remembers seeing tanks in her neighborhood when martial law was declared.

561.778 - 579.663 Anthony Kuhn

She told us, when we saw the news the next morning, my children got very scared and we were also very nervous wondering what's going on. I just felt so sorry that our children had to experience and see all that, things that we'd only seen in movies and books. So the martial law crisis shook South Koreans' confidence in their democracy.

579.723 - 596.578 Anthony Kuhn

It spurred many of them to take to the streets to defend democracy. And it appears to have also sent them to the polls today to hold their politicians accountable. Okay, so who's the frontrunner? Well, this is really E.J. Myung's race and his double-digit lead in the polls to lose. E.J. Myung is a former human rights lawyer.

597.078 - 618.289 Anthony Kuhn

He's been leading the left-of-center opposition Democratic Party, but he's moderated his liberal stances some to appeal to centrist voters. He's promised more checks and balances to limit presidential power and avoid a future power grab like the martial law incident. And he's promised a stronger safety net, such as subsidies to young families, to boost the country's plunging birth rate.

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